Atkore Inc. (ATKR) on Q2 2021 Results - Earnings Call Transcript
Operator: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Atkore Second Quarter Fiscal 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. Thank you. I would now like to hand the conference over to John Deitzer, Vice President of Treasury and Investor Relations. Mr. Deitzer, please go ahead. John Deitzer: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. I'm joined today by Bill Waltz, President and CEO; as well as David Johnson, Chief Financial Officer. We will take your questions after comments by Bill and David. Bill Waltz: Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. Starting on Slide 3. In the second quarter of 2021, Atkore again delivered outstanding performance across our businesses and what shaped up to be another record quarter. Revenue was $640 million and adjusted EBITDA was $193 million in the quarter. We had very strong results in both metal conduit and our focused product categories. In addition, we continue to see exceptional performance from our PVC business, driven by continued high demand in key end markets such as residential and data centers. Across the whole company, volume has rebounded to pre-COVID levels. We ended Q2, up $1 million in terms of volume, led by high single-digit volume growth in our international business. We are also very excited to announce that our new MC Glide armored cable product has recently been recognized by EC&M Magazine as Product of the Year in the Wire and Cable category. We are committed to developing innovative products that help improve the experience for contractors on the job site, and we're thrilled with this recognition. These tremendous financial results and operational achievements were driven by the focus and dedication of our team. The culture of teamwork across approximately 4,000 employees is core to who we are as a company. Our market remains robust, and we continue to deliver results today and invest for the future. Therefore, we are increasing our FY '21 outlook and now expect to achieve adjusted EBITDA in the range of $700 million to $750 million. I'll provide more detail on our outlook after David walks through this quarter's financials. But before I pass it off, I want to share an update regarding our recent acquisition of FRE Composites on Slide 4. This acquisition shows our proven bolt-on M&A strategy at work. We continue to acquire high-quality companies to expand our product portfolio, and FRE Composites does just that. FRE is widely recognized as a market leader for their innovative and high-quality fiberglass conduit systems, and this acquisition is a perfect fit for Atkore. David Johnson: Thank you, Bill, and good morning, everyone. Moving to our consolidated results on Slide 5, net sales increased 40% year-over-year primarily due to higher average selling prices across many parts of our business. Adjusted EBITDA increased to $193 million, which drove our adjusted EBITDA margin to 30% in the quarter, up significantly from the prior year. Our adjusted EPS of $2.79 increased 182% from the prior year. As you look at our year-over-year comparisons, also recall that we had very minor negative impacts from temporary shutdowns related to the pandemic in Q2 fiscal 2020. Turning to Slide 6, and our consolidated bridges. Net sales increased by $184 million due to higher selling prices, largely in our PVC and metal conduit products and the impact from our recent acquisitions. We also had double-digit revenue growth in our focused product categories, which contain many of our fittings products. Through outstanding operational, commercial execution, our team was able to fully overcome the impact from higher input cost inflation and we grew adjusted EBITDA by $106 million. This profit growth was driven by our ability to service our customers and execute the Atkore Business System, despite the challenges associated with COVID-19 and raw material supply. Shifting to our segment results on Slide 7. The Electrical segment led our profit and margin improvement year-over-year, with adjusted EBITDA up $111 million and adjusted EBITDA margins above 38%, due to strong performance from our PVC and metal conduit products, as well as our focused product category growth. One other positive to call out is the volume growth that we had in our international business this quarter, which was driven by the rollout of new products and solid demand recovery in key markets in Western Europe. In our Safety & Infrastructure segment, net sales increased nearly 15% from the prior year as the business was able to fully pass through the increases from rising steel input costs. Adjusted EBITDA margins declined in the quarter, but on a constant input costs, we would have anticipated margins would be higher by 180 basis points at just over 12%. We believe this segment is well positioned for growth and margin expansion as overall economic conditions continue to improve. Bill Waltz: Thanks, David. Turning to our outlook on Slide 9. We are raising our outlook for net sales, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS for the fiscal year based upon the better-than-expected results we experienced in Q2, as well we expect the back half of the year to unfold. Our third quarter 2021 outlook is for net sales to be up approximately 80% to 100%, and adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $200 million to $220 million. In addition, we expect to grow our adjusted EPS, up to $2.80 to $3.10. For FY '21, we now expect our net sales to be up approximately 40% to 50%, and adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $700 million to $750 million, which is up $260 million to $290 million versus our prior estimate. In addition, we expect our adjusted EPS will be in the range of $10 to $10.70. As evidenced by the results we delivered through Q2, we are successfully navigating this continued period of unusual supply-demand dynamics. As we've touched previously, by optimizing our supply chain, we are able to not only serve our customers reliably, but we're able to do so with shorter lead time than others. That's a direct credit to the sustained efficiency of the Atkore Business System. This high-demand paired with constrained supply in PVC and other categories is creating a very favorable pricing environment that is ultimately driving significant value and outperformance in our results. Operator: Andrew Kaplowitz with Citi. Your line is open. Eitan Buchbinder: Hi. This is Eitan Buchbinder on for Andy. Good morning. Bill Waltz: Good morning. Eitan Buchbinder: The PVC markets remained strong and you previously described being able to focus production in order to provide competitive lead times at higher selling prices. So, have you seen a big competitive response with regards to lead times in pricing given the strength in PVC markets? Bill Waltz: I think we're definitely leading the industry in our deliveries and with that, customers are coming to us. But again, we're making sure that we serve customers appropriately and not take any more orders than needed that we would actually get extended lead time. So hopefully that gives you a feel. Eitan Buchbinder: Thank you. And you called out the impact of severe weather in Texas. Can you quantify how much of a tailwind that provided in the quarter and potentially for the full year? Bill Waltz: It's hard to quantify from a standpoint of exactly how much, but it was absolutely a catalyst that helped drive our results, especially in PVC. Now the only thing I would add to that is while PVC is a stand out, we're doing well, as we called out from metal conduit, our cable businesses, international businesses. So it's not a one-trick pony, but it definitely helped. Eitan Buchbinder: And if I could just squeeze one more in. Bill Waltz: Sure. Eitan Buchbinder: Can you give some color about how to think about margins within the safety - the Safety & Infrastructure business? There is a lag in terms of prices settling in. So do you expect margins to be able to return to that mid-teens level in the third quarter or as we wrap up the year? David Johnson: Yes. This is David. I would say it depends. It depends on whether steel prices continue to rise or come down. And the reason for that is, if you look at this quarter in particular, they were able - S&I actually did raise prices to offset 100% of the increase in input costs. So they did a really good job, netted to zero, which as you know, does affect the overall percentages. They were down a little bit in volume and what have you in the quarter. So going forward, I would expect that same attributes to happen where price does offset cost, but it will have a decremental effect on the actual percentage. So, I would say, get a little bit better from here. But until steel - steel prices actually peak and maybe even start going down slightly, you won't see a tremendous upswing in that actual percentage. Operator: Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Deane Dray: So we're still trying to absorb some of these big price increases, just the magnitude of that. And that's always been the story historically with Atkore, the ability to pass-through instantly higher raw material costs. If there's ever been a quarter, this is it, that kind of shows you that's your model. So, can I start with - if the context of the 35.6 percentage points in price increase, what's the input cost increase that we saw in the quarter? Can we start there? Just if you aggregate steel, if you aggregate resin, how much was higher input costs? David Johnson: Yes, Deane. If you - I'm going to reference our Page 6 and on the bottom where the EBITDA bridge is. You can see that input cost changes were an increase of $64 million in the quarter, offset, obviously, by the $163 million in increased prices. So I would say the increased prices and element certainly is the pass-through of input cost changes, but also probably even a major element of it is, again, just delivery and being able to service our customers and being able to get the price for the value that we're offering the market at this point in time. Deane Dray: And just directionally, out of that $64 million, how much of it was of PVC versus steel? Bill Waltz: It's probably a mix, Deane, because you get into like steel costs. Hot-rolled steel in the last seven months, eight months have tripled in price, and then it's a question of, we probably sell more steel products than PVC. So… David Johnson: It's all of S&I steel for less. So, yes, I would say little bit more on the steel side. Deane Dray: Good. All right. So the question then becomes for us is the process of normalization. So, will there be a - and maybe let's just start on the supply side of new capacity. Is there - do you have plenty come on and might your competition start to bring in new capacity? Bill Waltz: It's obviously hard. I'm not here today to announce anything that we're doing, but don't read into that either, Deane. We did bring our facility for PVC, for example, that was knocked out by a flood back online. So that's helped some. From there, Deane, it's hard to speculate any type of add in infrastructure is at least a year long to put something in, whether it's us or competition. Then you get into, is this an anomaly for a year? Do you have space in your facility? And then you do have growing market. So, I'm always watching, we're watching. But there is nothing I can predict or that overly concerned about at the moment. Deane Dray: That's for Atkore. But how about competition? Bill Waltz: No. But it's the same, Deane. In other words, Deane, do they have space in their facility? Are they sitting there taking their money, private company to their shareholders? Are they concerned two years now, pricing may normalize? And by the way, if somebody was to add a little bit of capacity, the markets aren't across the board. So, I would expect that to continue for the next several years. So, I was making more of a holistic statement. I'm not that concerned. Deane Dray: Good. And then just so we're level set on the rule of thumb is, conduit cannot be shipped more than 500 miles economically. So that's just… Bill Waltz: Yes, PVC. Deane Dray: Yes. That negates any chance that you'll start seeing Chinese imports. Bill Waltz: Oh, yes, Chinese share, at least for PVC, that's of all my concerns in life, that's not one of them. Deane Dray: Just want to make sure that's still not what we are concerned about. Bill Waltz: Yes. Deane Dray: All right. So the ramp down in normalizing is - you think is a 2021. So the back half, things can normalize because if you look at the guidance, which we really appreciate you pointing to for '22, it does ramp down. So what's the kind of - is it linear in terms of the selling price as supply demand begins to normalize. Bill Waltz: Yes. I think it is linear probably, Deane, with the other assumption is probably a little bit more directly in the winter months because again, there is seasonality to our business. You can see that with previous years in revenue and earnings. And it's a logical thing in other words. Think about PVC specifically, but even other building products. It's hard to put PVC underground when half of the United States is frozen for five months. But I would suspect that my competition, myself will be building inventory, catching up during the winter months. And therefore, when spring comes next year, there will probably be more of a normalized supply demand and therefore, our guidance, which most people don't give or estimates are $400 million to $450 million seems both prudent. But by the way, up, an increase from quite frankly just three months ago. So it's a good time to be an Atkore shareholder. Deane Dray: Agreed. And just last one for me is a bit more of a technical question. So when I look at the FRE acquisition and that's fiberglass. So, I'm pretty familiar with the building codes for steel versus building codes of PVC. How does fiberglass get within the equation of building codes? Is it a substitute for PVC, or is it in between? Bill Waltz: It could be. But, Deane, there is a couple of places here where it's really unique and that's why we're so excited to add this to the line. So for example, on Page 4, with bridges and things like that, fiberglass is the lightest of all the materials we provide. And again, we have a full suite of conduit. So if you do have an aging bridge and you're concerned about how you want to replace things, but you don't want to add tons and tons of weight to it, fiberglass is a perfect alternative to redo the conduit on a bridge, for example. And then to your point about getting tacky, fiberglass is perfect in fire retardant applications, for example, steel won't melt. But it would transfer the heat inside to the wire. So, you don't want a steel conduit, for example, going into your fire system, so the cables burn before the fire, pumps go on. So in that type of case, FRE is spot on for those application. So… David Johnson: Funnels, that kind of thing, all those kinds of applications. Bill Waltz: Exactly. So it's - we acquired it for the long, long-term, like anything we do. But obviously, with new administration and investments in infrastructure, it was like the perfect time for us to get this as part of our corporation. Deane Dray: That's really helpful explanation. And, yes, it's highly topical, especially bridge and tunnel and all the infrastructure spending that is supposed to be happening. So congrats. David Johnson: Thank you. Operator: John Walsh with Credit Suisse. Your line is open. John Walsh: Wanted to circle back here to price. If I remember correctly, I think your previous view on 2022 kind of assumed that the benefit of price related to COVID normalizes, I guess, to use the Deane's word there. But I'm trying to understand why that might be the case. Your product requires a very regional manufacturing structure. It's a pretty concentrated market. I guess I'm curious why all of a sudden price would kind of normalize and at least, not just plateau at these rates. It's also pretty small part of the input costs of a project. So maybe just help us understand that a little bit. Bill Waltz: Yes. Great question, John. First, obviously, for myself and then for shareholders, I would love if it was to plateau. I just don't think - and by the way, we will strive to continue to provide value to our customers and get a fair price for providing that value. I just think it's not realistic, John, from the following reasons, supply-demand. When our competitors do catch up, are they willing to say, hey, I can provide the same services as Atkore? They can't today. I'm generalizing there is great competitors out there across all of our product lines. But as they catch up and build supply and get it out in the field and all of a sudden start saying, hey, I'll provide 5% less price for that same service, I think we'll start to see more normalized. Now, John, to your point, when we gave the original guidance, it still had, if anyone did a model and just said, volume up several percent, productivity, there was still two years of price built in. And now as we raised that guidance or estimates to the $400 million to $450 million range, we are assuming along with the FRE acquisition that we will continue to hold some more of that price going forward. But I just don't think it's prudent thing for investors and we want to be as transparent as possible, i.e., the reason, we're probably one of the very few companies that is giving some type of estimate into 2022. John Walsh: And I know… David Johnson: John, just one other thing on that. I do think, as time goes on, we'll definitely have a little bit more clarity to that, as we have more clarity in FY '21. A quarter ago, we obviously thought $450 million for EBITDA and now we're significantly above that, as these challenges have increased a little bit in the quarter due to the winter storm and what have you, but we also see this imbalance between supply and demand continuing at least through this year. So as the year unfolds and we get more information, then we'll relook like we normally do in November and provide updated guidance for FY '20. Bill Waltz: Yes. And the other thing I'd like to emphasize and I'm sorry, John, back to you then is PVC, we've called out because it's our most example of that supply-demand characteristics. But I don't want to ignore, whether it's our cable business, our metal conduit business, I'm not going with CH-1 or International business that this isn't just one product, but most of those other products and our businesses also are in a unique situation. Steel supply went from a three weeks for us to get steel into literally like 13. If we go into measuring weeks to months and that has caused unique, where competitors have stocked out our product or haven't been able to forecast accurately 13 weeks in advance. So - but those things over time should normalize. But I'm projecting, John, just like for you or I'd estimate what the cost of lumber is going to be two years from now. John Walsh: Yes, no, that makes sense. I was just going to say, we definitely appreciate you providing a look into 2022 because you are one of the few. If we could talk actually maybe a little bit about international, obviously, it's a smaller part of your business. But maybe you could talk about the end markets that you're seeing driving that international growth and kind of - I know you're in kind of a smaller subset of countries. But any other color you can provide there? Bill Waltz: Yes, a couple. It's probably across the board with their growth and to a point, we provided in other things. It's around 10% of the business, give or take. But two things I would claim there, there is especially one growing share. They just have a great organization that is really aligned with end customers and providing value and then specifically data centers. I have a call every couple of weeks with our President of International and his eyes light up when he is talking, I won't mention specific large data corporations, but his work with them both in Europe and the Middle East and so forth as they grow. He and his team are doing a great job in that area. So… John Walsh: Great. And then maybe I'll - just one more here. When you think about the volume recovery for the back half of this year and into next year, obviously, we are looking at ABI, right, Dodge contractor backlog, et cetera. But any more color you'd provide around kind of that slope between kind of new construction projects, renovation retrofit and then maybe a little bit of thoughts around infrastructure as well? Bill Waltz: Yes. So I think, in general, expect for the whole year to be low-single digits, which means stronger than that in the second half of the year, with the fairness of this quarter will be probably even high single-digits. But we are comping the infamous shutdown quarantine quarter last year. But again, John, digressing a little from question, I'm really proud. David called it out that we were actually up slightly in volume this quarter in the middle with still things being slower in COVID compared to the full robustness a year ago. So the teams are doing well. We're serving customers and just going forward, think mid to low single-digit growth as a driver. Operator: Chris Moore with CJS Securities. Your line is open. Chris Moore: Good morning. Yes. Most of mine have been answered. But maybe in your prepared remarks, you talked still about still heavily investing in organic growth, be that products, geography, et cetera. Can you maybe talk to that a little bit further? Bill Waltz: Yes. So we are, Chris, without naming the products, we haven't released yet, one of our key focus is on both new products but also services. So - but I'll go with new products. We, for example, and I called it out, won an award for our cable business where just the outside edging on a piece of cable, where this metal banding is a lot smoother. So it's a lot easier to pull through like the joists and the walls and so forth. That's literally, which was recognized by Electrical Construction Magazine with their Product of the Year for the cable business and there are several other products. I know we released four in the last month that we'll be talking through with our employees. And then it's services. It's just how can we leverage pull-through investments we're making with contractors, software tools that help our truckers pick-up orders and know exactly when to arrive and what the tools for BIM modeling and so forth. So, we're making investments really across the board. As one would appreciate, when we're delivering results like this, we're also really focused on making sure we're making investments so that 2023 will be a successful is what this fiscal year is turning out to be. Operator: I would now like to turn the call back over to Bill Waltz for closing remarks. Bill Waltz: Great. So, hey, before we conclude, let me summarize my three key takeaways from this discussion this morning. First, the outstanding performance we delivered in the second quarter is a result of the strong operational focus of the entire team and our ability to prioritize our customers and provide the products they need most. Second, we continue to deploy capital effectively to grow our business and we're really excited about the recent acquisition of FRE Composites. Third, and in closing, we continue to be enthusiastic about what the future holds for this tremendous company and team over the remainder of the year and then beyond that. So with that, thank you for all your support and interest in Atkore. And we look forward to speaking with you during our next quarterly call. So, thank you. It concludes the call for the day. Operator: This concludes the Atkore second quarter fiscal 2021 earnings conference call. We thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.ATKR Ratings Summary
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