Taboola.com Ltd. (TBLA) on Q4 2021 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

Disclaimer*: This transcript is designed to be used alongside the freely available audio recording on this page. Timestamps within the transcript are designed to help you navigate the audio should the corresponding text be unclear. The machine-assisted output provided is partly edited and is designed as a guide.: Operator: 0:01 Good day, ladies and gentlemen and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Taboola Fourth Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. . 0:26 At this time, I would like to turn the broadcast over to Ms. Jennifer Horsley. Ma'am, you may begin. Jennifer Horsley: 0:43 Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Taboola's fourth quarter and full year 2021 earnings conference call. I'm here with Adam Singolda, our Founder and CEO; and Steve Walker, our CFO. We issued our earnings press release yesterday aftermarket, and it is available, along with our Q4 Shareholder Letter in the Investors section of our website. 1:04 Now, I'll quickly cover the Safe Harbor. Certain statements today, including our expectations for future periods, are forward-looking statements. They are not facts and are subject to material risks and uncertainties described in our SEC filings. These statements are based on currently available information, and we undertake no duty to update them, except as required by law. Today's discussion is also subject to the forward-looking statement limitations in the earnings press release. Future events could differ materially and adversely from those anticipated. During this call, we will use terms defined in the earnings release and refer to non-GAAP financial measures. For definitions and reconciliations to GAAP, please refer to the non-GAAP tables in the earnings release posted on our website. 1:50 With that, I'll turn the call over to Adam. Adam Singolda: 1:54 Thanks, Jen. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our fourth quarter call. I'm excited to say we finished the year with a record Q4 and record 2021. Taboola is growing fast, our EBITDA margin is over 30% and we're generating cash and there's a meaningful momentum in the market. Let me share some of our 2021 numbers. 2:13 Q4 revenues were $408 million, ex-TAC Gross Profit, which is what's left for us after we share revenue with our publishers. The main metric we measure as management was $169 million, which represents 54% growth rates over Q4 of 2020 on a reported basis. This ex-TAC growth rate in Q4 on a pro forma basis, which means if we had owned Connexity in Q4 2020. Then our Q4 growth rates in 2021 versus 2020 would have been 22%. We also generated adjusted EBITDA of $65 million in Q4 as an adjusted EBITDA margin of 38.6%. When looking at 2021, we extended our full-year guidance run ex-TAC Gross Profit to $519 million growth rates are 36% over 2020 on a reporting basis with Connexity pro forma, our ex-TAC growth rates in 2021 was 25%. To put this in perspective, when going public in 2021, we guided for 16% ex-TAC growth over 2020. 3:18 We also delivered strong adjusted EBITDA of $179 million in 2021, at a margin of 34.6%. As you can see, 2021 was a strong year financially for us. But it was really a milestone year for us in many ways. We went public on June 30th completely our largest acquisition in our history connects the making us a leader in e-Commerce, brought new products into the market and won meaningful partnerships all around the world. We've demonstrated our differentiation while we win, as well as establish our predictability of the business with long-term exclusive publisher partnership. All of this while delivering better ways each quarter. I'm very proud of the team for all of that we've accomplished in 2021 and these results providing us confidence to increase our guidance for 2022. Steve will share more details, but I would like to provide some highlights. 4:13 We expect revenues of $1.67 billion, ex-TAC Gross Profit of $665 million and adjusted EBITDA of $204 million each at the midpoint of our guidance. This guidance represents an ex-TAC growth rates of 28% over last year and 16% on a pro forma basis. With 30% to 32% adjusted EBITDA margin, I could not be more excited about our future, and I feel we're exactly where we need to be. There are only 24 hours in a day and the average person makes notes of 30,000 decisions a day. And recommendation engines like Taboola are needed to help people make decisions that can impact your life, what to read, what to listen to, what to buy. Our mission is to power recommendations for the Open Web. Anywhere I've set up the Walled Garden. Over time, we aim to ensure anything, and everything will be personalized powered by Taboola. 5:04 I think Amazon's people who buy this also buy, but powered by Taboola for content, products and services, and everywhere in the Open Web outside of the Walled Garden. The Open Web is a $64 billion market and revenue differentiated offerings that help us to win business fast and profitably. You've all used this before. If you've ever been on a website or an app that you love, like CNBC, or ESPN, or BBC or Independent, or El Mundo. Taboola recommends more content from the site you're already on, as well as from elsewhere around the web. 5:36 People click on Taboola 30 billion times a year, half of it is to read and watch more editorial content and the other half is sponsored by advertisers. Now more than 15,000 advertisers work with Taboola already to reach users in the Open Web in the right context, when they're reading about something they care about. We reached about half a billion people every day. It's safe to advertise with us and we're effective. Following the acquisition of Connexity, we're also leader in the power of e-Commerce recommendations, driving more than 1 million monthly transactions. Leading brands including Walmart, Macy's, Wayfair, Skechers, and eBay are among some of our key customers. 6:14 This is a good time to also update about where we are in Connexity and our integration. We made progress in all three fronts that I talked about in the past people. There's a lot of excitement and good energy. We're merging ourselves and calm system and it's starting to feel like we're one. My goal here is that soon enough, people are joining Taboola will not know who came from Taboola or Connexity. On the advertising front, there's a good momentum is certainly Connexity by Taboola sales team starting in China and soon in the US. 6:42 On the publisher front, we're cross selling Connexity offering to Taboola publishers in EMEA and APAC and we're getting good demand for it from all of our partners, you may have seen us highlight Connexity is part of our solution in recent press releases in win announcements, so you already know that the market cares about it. 6:59 Taking a step back, over the past year, the Open Web has begun to transition from its addiction to tracking user data and is shifting to contextual targeting. I'm encouraged by where the industry is going. It's safer for users and contextual advertising is the source of Taboola’s strength. Advertisers can reach users on Taboola based on their reading preferences, what makes them curious, what interests them, what they're watched and read, not just what they told social network about themselves. This is the future of our industry, especially in the back all of the changes we're seeing with Apple, Google, and more. 7:35 As I reflect on 2021, there are 3 important things on my mind as it relates to our business. I'll share highlights of each our differentiation and how that makes us win, our significant growth opportunities in our $64 billion market and a strong predictable financial model. We win business because we're differentiated in the marketplace. Many companies in the advertising space offer ads to publishers. But the truth is that nobody is looking forward to seeing an ad. Triple that though, doesn't just offer ads. Publishers working with us gets more than just revenue, Chief editors choose Taboola, product leadership chooses Taboola, audience development team choose Taboola, and now e-Commerce people choose Taboola. And thanks to that, we're able to win long-term exclusive partnerships with some of the most amazing publishers in the world. 8:24 This is what comes from having a product led approach and investing $100 million a year in a unique platform offering the differentiators. Here are a few of those investments that took place in 2021 and how our clients and partners choose Taboola thanks to them. Advertisers choose Taboola because our technology and AI works, SmartBid is our AI that helps advertisers succeed with Taboola. Similar to how if you're buying an ad from Google or Amazon, their technologies optimizing on your behalf. At Taboola, it's called SmartBid. In Q3, we announced SmartBids newest innovation, they mentioned. The factors in 40 different signals or dimensions as we call them at scales to drive strong campaign performance. Most companies are providing advertising solution to publishers without programmatic channels to bring dollars and they're trying to be less dependent on it. They could supply path optimization and it means that they want less companies between them and the advertiser or client, it means they are not the ones optimizing for the advertisers. And they're not sure if the advertiser will keep buying from them. 9:29 With Taboola on the other hand, we behave a lot more like Google, Amazon or Meta where the vast majority of our revenue but 90% of it comes from advertisers who work with us directly. Those advertisers use SmartBid AI to optimize their campaigns, the user self-service tools, best practices, new ad formats, data to succeed and we know who they are. We onboard them, we grow their business, it just works. On the supply side, when you compared to both the companies that are mainly demand oriented and programmatic, our main advantage is that we don't buy inventory and hope that the inventory we have now will be here tomorrow. 10:06 We work with publishers exclusively and long-term and that means that as an advertiser working with Taboola, you're one step away from the publisher and there's consistency in the people you get to reach. And in many ways Taboola to the advertiser community is much more like a consumer company. You think – you can think of us as one big global publisher, we have guaranteed supply and reach half a billion people every single day. All of those dynamics help advertisers succeed with us repeatedly. 10:35 We also invested in 2021 in our high impact placements product launch to capture new mid-article inventory to drive greater brands and agencies growth, partners like NBC Sports, Future, Reach, Sinclair are choosing us for those reasons and brands just love it. In further support of our brands and agency work with in 2021 important relationships with brand protection groups like DoubleVerify or Moat and others. Another significant differentiator for us are editorial products, like newsroom and newly launched homepage for you. We've been investing in these for the past 5 years and it's paying off. AI technology that empowers editors to get unique insights about their decisions. 11:21 And as for last month, the Homepage for you making homepage as personalized and engaging as World Top social apps. These new offerings has been showing us that we can drive over 30% increase in fixed rates on the homepage and that's been adopted already by leading publisher. Our competitors don't offer products like this, and they miss an opportunity to engage one of the most important audience on the publisher – on the publisher side, the editors. It's been a decision point in Q4 wins like McClatchy and NDTV is valued at so much they signed a 10-year partnership with us, 10 years and other stars within Taboola is Taboola news, Think Apple News, but for Android devices. 11:59 In 2021, we find ground-breaking partnerships with Samsung Brazil, Xiaomi all around the world, two of the largest Android OEM manufacturers in the world, to integrate a speed of use android devices. To build the news is getting scaled and now drives an average of more than 400 million monthly engagements on editorial content from mobile devices in OEM partnerships. This represents an increase of more than 125% year-over-year. 12:27 And last but not least, our leadership in content moderation. We want to make sure the Open Web stays safe, and I'm convinced that our processes, policies and approach are some of the best in our space. We have dedicated moderation team of 50 employees that review every new advertisement. We were first unmoderated COVID-19, when it happened to make sure people are safe and we don't recommend things that can hurt people. Our policies are public, anyone can read them. They're local and relevant to the market they're enforcing. And we interact with local reporters and authorities to constantly learn and improve. And our clients and partners appreciate all of those efforts. 13:04 Our products that approach and providing more than just revenue, as well as investing in policies in safe Open Web help us win publishers and advertisers. As I look at the last year, we've had tremendous amount of momentum, winning partnerships like BBC, Hearst, Penske Media, Line Today, in Hong Kong, Le Figaro, we've also announced exciting news as we saw the new agreement with Microsoft last into July 2024, allowing both Microsoft and Taboola to look for even faster growth as part of a new, bidder technology which Microsoft has supported us in the design of. 13:39 As I finish my remarks, I want to spend a few moments on our significant growth opportunities, think of it in three phases. The first one is how we win within the Open Web $64 billion core market. The second one is how do we expand to recommend even more things. So our platform is more valuable to users, our clients, and our yield goes up. We're making good progress here. e-Commerce is already 50% of our business, and brands and agencies is already 50% of our business as well. And lastly, the third one, how can we bring our partners clients and technology through a command anywhere people spend our time. 14:13 In our core markets, the Open Web is still monetized using traditional ad, which provide limited value to users. Nobody opens their browser looking for a great banner, it's just never going to happen. Well, people do actually interact with Google ads or Amazon ads, which do a great job honestly to recommend whatever people want. On Amazon, some of the product recommendations organic and some are sponsored. But they're all relevant to both advertising experience are very similar to Amazon or Google in the sense that they offer both editorial recommendation as well as paid advertising. 14:45 I think a lot of the $64 billion market should look like Amazon, and Taboola we can power it. Taboola offers more than just traditional advertising products. We offer users a mix of Taboola recommendations, bundled with paid recommendations, all natively rendered. When you go to a search on Google, some of the results are organic and some are paid. But they're all related to what you want to do next. 15:10 We're not stopping here over the next 10 to 20 years, Taboola will recommend anything and be anywhere. Our aspirations are to be on every connected TV, every mobile device in every car. Much like ours, some cars now arrived with Spotify for music in them. Cars should be shipped with Taboola inside for local national news, or for podcasts recommendations. 15:32 We see tremendous opportunities to grow in new ways to take our contextual signals, or AI and our data superpower to new places, to disrupt the traditional advertising ecosystem, and capture a larger share of the 64 billion plus Open Web market. As we think about the future, beyond the core, we want to keep diversifying what's recommend as well as make sure we're integrated anywhere people spend their time. This is the foundation of a Recommend Anything you'd Recommend Anywhere strategy. 16:02 And before I pass it to Steve, or CFO, let me just say what a good time it is to be in our space, and at Taboola, we're kicking off 2022 on the back of a very strong 2021. We're executing, we're energized to keep innovating on the product front and we're excited to work with incredible partners all over the world. We're growing fast, we generate over 30% EBITDA margin, which generates cash, which allow us to invest in recruiting in M&A and other things. And in 2022, we intend to grow over 20% of our employee base around the world. We have delivered it to keep innovating and redefine our dream. 16:37 Lastly, where you are looking for, we step in the broader market. We're driven by contextual signals, which help us navigate well, the privacy dynamics. And we're among the biggest companies in Open Web and in e-Commerce already. And then I'm back with a pandemic. We're all buying more things online and we'll never go back to how we used to be in 2019. We are already in the future and Taboola is ready for it. 16:59 I will now hand it over to Steve, who will dive into deeper details on our financial performance and guidance. Thank you. Steve Walker: 17:06 Thanks, Adam. And good morning everyone. As Adam shared, we had a strong fourth quarter to end 2021. As you'll see in our earnings release, we beat our Q4 guidance on all measures. And as Adam reference we're raising 2022. Since we are still relatively newly public, I will remind everyone of how we look at and measure our business. We're focused on achieving profitable growth. We measure our performance against this goal by looking at two measures, to measure growth, we look at ex-TAC Gross Profit growth rates. Ex-TAC is what we keep from our revenues after we pay our publisher partners. 17:45 To measure profitability, we look at our adjusted EBITDA margin. Adjusted EBITDA margin is our adjusted EBITDA divided by our ex-TAC gross profit, similar to how SaaS businesses have a rule of 40 where they always want growth rate plus their profit margin to exceed 40%. We want the some of our ex-TAC growth rate and our adjusted EBITDA margin to exceed 40%. 18:09 So now on to our Q4 and full year 2021 results. Revenue in Q4 was 408,000. Ex-TAC Gross Profit was $169 million and adjusted EBITDA was $65 million. This represented ex-TAC growth of 54% year over year, or 22% on a pro forma basis with Connexity and a 38.6% ratio of adjusted EBITDA ex-TAC Gross Profit or what we often refer to as adjusted EBITDA margin. 18:41 All of the measures I highlighted are record levels. This performance propelled us to full year 2021 revenue of $1.4 billion ex-TAC Gross Profit of $519 million and adjusted EBITDA of $179 million. This represented ex-TAC growth of 36% year-over-year on a reported basis and 25% on a pro forma basis, and an adjusted EBITDA margin of 34.6%. The 25% pro forma growth rate, and over 34% margin puts us well above our rule of 40 company target. I'll also note that our 25% pro forma growth rate is significantly better than our original 2021 PIPE deck projections, which would have had us growing ex-TAC at around 16% in 2021. The same goes for our adjusted EBITDA margin of 34.6%, which was well above our PIPE deck projection of 28.6%. 19:44 As Adam shared, we are seeing continued good progress in the business, winning new customers growing our existing customer relationships at a good pace, primarily by growing yield and executing on our recommend anything and recommend anywhere growth initiatives. Of the Q4 gross revenue growth of $56 million, $21 million came from new digital property partners, and $35 million came from growth of our existing digital property partners. 20:16 Our Q4 ex-TAC Gross Profit was $169 million and was up $59 million or 54% year-over-year. This growth came from 3 sources, the addition of new digital property partners to our network, growth of our existing digital property partners, and the addition of Connexity to our business. The 54% growth rate also benefited from a soft comparable quarter due to $17 million in guaranteed TAC payments withheld and Q2 and Q3 of 2020. And repaid in Q4 of 2020. 20:52 As I've mentioned on multiple occasions, looking at our single quarter growth rates is somewhat deceiving in 2021. Because of the withholding of the guarantees in Q2 and Q3 of 2020 and subsequent repayment in Q4. To better understand our growth rate I've consistently pointed to the full year ex-TAC growth, which was 36% reported and 25% on a pro forma basis. For the full year our ex-TAC net dollar retention for our publishers was extremely strong at 116% for Taboola on a standalone basis. 21:27 Looking now at operating expenses, they were up $38 million year-over-year driven by growth and investments in our business. The inclusion of Connexity, higher depreciation and amortization from intangibles coming from the Connexity acquisition and expenses related to being a public company. We generated adjusted EBITDA $65 million in Q4, an increase of $32 million year-over-year. Margins remained very strong as our adjusted EBITDA margin was 38.6% in Q4, which exceeded guidance. 22:07 Fourth quarter is our seasonally highest margin quarter given the higher revenues, which is why it's good to also look at the full year from a margin standpoint, were adjusted EBITDA margin was 34.6%, above our long-term target of 30%, and also an increase from 2020, which was 27.8%. It is worth noting that we had net income of $600,000 in Q4, which compared to net income of $2.8 million in 2020. You can look at the net income to adjust EBITDA reconciliation to see that the two biggest factors year-over-year that contributed to offset in their profit growth were higher depreciation and amortization of $15.9 million, driven by the intangibles from the Connexity Acquisition and higher tax expense of $15.4 million in 2021, due primarily to the fact we exhausted certain tax credits. 23:10 In terms of cash generation, we have been consistent in saying that we expect our ratio of free cash flow to adjust the EBITDA to be around 60% over any reasonably long period of time. In 2021, we generated $24 million of free cash flow. If you look back at the last 24 months, our free cash flow was $146 million, or 51% of our adjusted EBITDA over that period. Excluding M&A costs at one time cost of going public that ratio would have been 61%. So in line with our expectations, we continue to expect free cash flow to be approximately 60% of our adjusted EBITDA over any reasonably long period of time. 23:58 We ended 2021 with a strong balance sheet position with a positive net cash position. Our cash balance of $319 million was above our debt balance of $285 million. So good position that provides us ample financial flexibility. Following our strong Q4 In 2021, we are raising our expectations for 2022 As highlighted earlier. I won't go through the Q1 guidance which we are issuing for the first time, though I will note that Q1 is seasonally the lowest revenue quarter for us. In addition, Q1 2022 is a challenging comparable quarter because ex-TAC Gross Profit grew 54% year-over-year in Q1 2021 which was an exceptionally strong performance. However, as you can see, from our guidance, we still expect strong growth for 2022 on the whole. I also wanted to provide a rough breakdown for seasonality, given we are still new to some investors and now have connects results which will change our seasonality profile. 25:08 We expect ex-TAC for the year to breakdown approximately as follows. 20% in Q1, 23% in Q2, 25% in Q3 and 32% in Q4. Adjusted EBITDA breakdown, we expect to be approximately 16% in Q1, 20% in Q2, 22% in Q3 and 42% Q4. Note that there is a higher seasonality for adjusted EBITDA given that costs are relatively stable, but revenue and ex-TAC increases considerably in Q4. 25:45 For the full year of 2022, we are now projecting ex-TAC Gross Profit will be $661 million to $669 million, which represents growth of 27% to 29% versus 2021 or 15% to 17% on a pro forma basis. That is an increase from our previous guidance of $645 million to $665 million. We're expecting 2022 Full year adjusted EBITDA to be $195 million to $213 million. This demonstrates a very healthy adjusted EBITDA margin, meaning adjusted EBITDA divided by ex-TAC Gross Profit of over 30%. 26:30 As I stated previously, we expect margin to be closer to our model target of 30%. As we ramp up investments in our core business, as well as our growth initiatives. We are planning on growing headcount 23% over the course of the year, with a heavy emphasis on increasing our R&D capacity. 2022 operating expenses are also proportionately higher than 2021 as we factor in a full year of public company costs and return to more normal operating expenses post-COVID. We are also introducing beginning with Q1 2022 earnings, and non-GAAP net income reporting metric. We believe this can be helpful in modeling our business as well as for providing comparability to peers. 27:18 As you can see in our release, we are guiding that 2022 non-GAAP net income will be between $111 million and $129 million. We will be filing with our 20th Annual Report historical results for this new measure. To wrap up, we are focused on continuing to execute and to build on the significant progress we made in 2021, we see tremendous opportunities to grow our core business by bringing on more digital properties and by growing the revenue from our existing partners, both by continuing to grow our yield, and by continuing to offer additional products and services. And we have a strong foundation for new growth from our recommend anywhere and recommend anything growth strategies. E-Commerce now makes up over 15% of our ex-TAC Gross Profit. Brands and agencies are also over 15% and Taboola news is gaining scale. 28:14 With that, let's open it up for questions. Operator: 28:21 Ladies and gentlemen Our first question or comment comes from the line of Justin Patterson from KeyBanc, your line is open. Justin Patterson: 28:45 Great, thank you very much to if I can. Adam, you made a lot of progress with Taboola news this past year. What are the next big initiatives to expand reach? And what are the factors you're looking at to determine the right monetization model? And then for Steve, good progress of high value segments about 30% of ex-TAC Gross Profit growth or ex-TAC Gross Profit. As we look toward 2022? How are you ramping up these segments and how that – how's that contemplated in guidance? Thank you. Adam Singolda: 29:16 Hi, Justin. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for the question. Thanks for joining us. So we're seeing Taboola news, he was seeing a lot of good momentum. You've seen some of the announcements last year with Samsung Brazil and Xiaomi all around the world. And we've also in my letter I wrote about our monthly engagement, that it's growing around 25% year-over-year. So we're seeing consumers interacting with Taboola news. In a growing way, which is exciting, the reason by the way, it's important to us not only because it can be a revenue generator, which I'll speak about in a second, but also because strategically every time the consumer opens your Samsung and clicks on a piece of content we open the browser and we send that person straight to the publisher which is a different experience than Apple News which keeps you within the Apple ecosystem and that means that we're slowly becoming a more significant source of traffic to publishers in Open Web, which is very powerful. If you compare us to SEO, or social traffic. That's something publishers are, perceived as very important in terms of going to our monthly readership. 30:19 So, so that's why that is not only financially exciting, but also strategically important for us. Now, what's interesting is that Taboola news, it's a multi-year startup. So to start within Taboola, but it's starting to be also financially interesting for us. In fact, some of what we're seeing in 2022 model is actually including some growth engines, dollars that we're seeing, it's already in the millions of dollars Taboola news and expect this to continue to grow. The way we generate revenue from Taboola news is in 1 of 2 ways. One, at times, when you swipe right to see a feed of news, much like, when you have on Twitter or other social networks that feed incorporates paid advertising from our advertising community. So you might see 3 or 4 recommendations from news that you like, and then the fifth one would be paid. If you click on that to generate revenue, and we shut that revenue with the OEM. That's one way to generate revenue. 31:14 And the second one is, every time you click on a piece of content, you land an article or a video that has to build a feed on it, which we monetize very well, as you know, that's our core business. So those two ways are generates revenue for Taboola, which we share, in this case with the OEM that is our partner. Steve Walker: 31:33 And then, in terms of the high value segments that you asked about, so I think, first of all, we're very excited about the progress we've made there. So you noted, Justin, that each of those is now over 15% of our ex-TAC, which is great to see, in terms of going forward. So we're – the connectivity or the e-Commerce portion of our business is over 15% already. And we're excited about where we're going with that. So we're seeing good progress in terms of capitalize on the synergies. And that's one area that you're going to see that in our forward looking guidance is we obviously projected about $6 million of synergies from Connexity this year. And we expect to continue to grow those over time, we've said that we think that can be $100 million of ex-TAC in four years. So that's the biggest impact that you're going to see on the e-Commerce side. 32:28 For brands and agencies, you've seen a lot of announcements from us recently about becoming certified, as a brand safe channel for brands and agencies, I think you'll see more announcements in the near future about partnerships that we're building with agencies and with brands to bring them on and I think where both Connexity e-Commerce and the brands and agencies kind of impact our business in terms of our guidance is in terms of growing our existing base. So they're great upsell opportunities with our existing base for high impact placements. For homepage for you, which also gives us high impact placements and will help us work with brands and agencies. So it's a upsell opportunity, you'll see it in that 60% of our growth that we expect to come from growing our existing base and like I said, Connexity, you'll also see in terms of as we ramp up the synergies there that'll impact our financials as well. 33:26 Also kind of mentioned one other thing, which is that we're also excited by Taboola news, our other growth initiative with Taboola, recommending anywhere. So Adam just talked a little bit about that. But I think the we're very excited that that's actually we're seeing it in the financials now. So it was part of our beat in Q4. And we're seeing that it's going to become more material part of our business over time. Justin Patterson: 33:53 Great, thank you. Jennifer Horsley: 33:56 Thanks for the question. Operator. Next question. Operator: 33:57 Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Boone from JMP securities, your line is open. Andrew Boone: 34:05 Hi, guys. Good morning, and thanks for taking my questions, 2 please. The first on dimensions. Can you talk about any early results there that you're seeing from advertisers? And just how's the conversation going as advertisers are adopting the product? And then secondly, going back to Connexity? You know, I think you talked about the sales that are in EMEA and APAC. I believe that there were just two US salespeople that Connexity have in the US. Can you just talk about the domestic kind of go-to-market and where you guys are in terms of integrating your own Salesforce and Connexity products? Thanks so much. Adam Singolda: 34:42 Yeah, Andrew, good morning. Love SmartBid. So let's – let's start with that. So what we've seen in Q4, if you remember we announced I mentioned I know you know it and what was interesting, if you recall quickly is a reminder for everyone that mentioned basically allowed SmartBid to bid in a more granular way when he saw that it made sense. So as an example Before SmartBid, and entertainment website, it would not in gaming website would not get insurance ads or high intent ads because SmartBid, they would think that it doesn't make sense to bid in that environment. From demand from once dimension was introduced, SmartBid, we're looking at a more granular way and even one article on entertainment website that spoke about insurance, Sony would receive high bids from those types of advertisers. And that was, that was new, what happened is that and that's the power of AI and Deep Learning, we started receiving new types of conversions from those environments on a more granular way. And SmartBid, essentially starts teaching itself something new, which is again, the beautiful part about AI. And we saw that in Q4, especially SmartBid starts collecting new types of conversions that we never got before. And so they're able to correlate short-term intent. So it started – SmartBid start seeing that because of those conversions. People that read about a certain type of things tend to buy something in a short-term, it kind of almost like a semi retargeting, but using what I read, and that was something that SmartBid was teaching itself, which is very powerful, we start seeing early performance of advertisers that are doing really well. We have some numbers, but we haven't released them yet. But we're seeing good results of advertisers that our conversion rates are at a much better way in terms of CPA and cost per acquisition. And that's something that will scale in 2022, I expect. But what's interesting is that SmartBid is teaching itself things based on new type of data that it's collecting, which is really the power of our investment in AI. 36:44 And again, we are seeing yield improvement. So as you saw, we beat our yield in Q4 and some of that was thanks to dimensions. And I'm very excited to see how we can scale that learning of this semi retargeting using the context of the page, which is especially relevant in a cookieless world. SmartBid is pitching itself and preparing itself I guess, for cookieless future. So that's about a SmartBid and you should stay tuned for a few things. One, a blog post about it, two, if you can use to join our investor day or head of AI is gonna join us on stage, whether you can be there in person or on Zoom, we're going to show some of these example. You know, it's really fun, because it's almost like a SmartBid up until now spoke English. Now, it's teaching itself to speak Spanish using those conversions. So it's, it's really cool, then you'll see some examples in a blog post and investor day. So that's what's about SmartBid, about convexity, we we've started, indeed, in China, EMEA, and APAC in general in terms of their synergies. And then soon we're – we intend to get on the advertiser side in terms of their ad salespeople you mentioned, to start in the US. So stay tuned for that. But that's, that's coming up soon. And we did start starting International where we saw an easier way to begin. Steve Walker: 38:04 Yes, by the way on the international piece, we've actually had multiple wins now, in China, for instance, that was the synergy that we highlighted last quarter that we didn't actually expect, but we've had multiple merchants now sign up for e-Commerce services through Connexity in China. So it's a we're seeing progress on that. Jennifer Horsley: 38:25 Thanks, Andrew. Operator, next question. Adam Singolda: 38:28 Thank you, guys. Operator: 38:29 Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of John Blackledge from Cowen. Your line is open. John Blackledge: 38:37 Great. Thanks. Two questions. Could you discuss the publisher extensions, like the new Microsoft deal, and any other new publishers added in the quarter? And then are there any big publisher deals up for renewal this year? And then on the iOS changes, any shift has been towards Taboola or more open platforms, given the recent iOS changes? Thank you. Adam Singolda: 39:02 Yep. Hi. Good morning. Thanks for the question. So Microsoft, we're – we're still aiming to, as you saw in our announcement, we're excited about the bigger technology, that's we're working with Microsoft, in support in designing that to launch Microsoft by the end of the quarter, which we're excited about, because we believe that is going to enable growth avenues for both of us, as it relates to sources of inventory we did not get exposed to beforehand. So that is exciting. We have great momentum and partnership with Microsoft. And was you know, we, which have been our friends since 2015, or so. So I'm excited about that, and still on track to launch by the end of the quarter. And I'm excited about what's to come on the other side in years to come. We've extended that relationship to 2024. So we have a lot of time throughout, keep working together on growing. So that's on that front end and just as a reminder, much like Google did with GDN, as an extension of their network. My expectation is that this will not only be an opportunity with Microsoft, but also, we could take that into other sources of inventory, that historically we did not tapped into social networks, display inventory and other things. 40:11 So we do have, as you know 90% of our revenue comes from advertisers work with us direct. So we have a huge advantage in the sense that we're not just programmatic in a sense that, we hope for the best that advertisers will come away, we control our faith by having advertisers working with us directly, which will enable us to extend our reach to other sources of inventory. So that just on the on the bigger one, and we are seeing, in our earliest times, I'm going to thank, we've updated the amount of advertisers now working with us, that's growing nicely. And a lot of that is performance advertised, which means that they find it to be a successful channel that is repeatedly driving the cost per acquisition they're looking to achieve. And then the SmartBid I mentioned, a lot of it is autonomous. So they just need to come to us and upload their creative and their goals, and we do the work for them. So we do see early signs of advertisers that exceed with us, my expectation is that we're just at the beginning of what's to come in terms of future that is mainly contextual, such a good time to be, contextual company, a company that is not driven by, user addicted, tracking, and all those things. From our perspective, defect, we drive growth based on what people are reading, not based on what they say about themselves, is such a beautiful place to be. And we're, we're excited about it. So we are seeing good signs from advertisers SmartBid is working really well are what we started to going to do in Q4, and you started raising our guidance for 2022. So all of those are good signs. John Blackledge: 41:46 Thank you. Jennifer Horsley: 41:47 Okay. Operator, next question. Operator: 41:49 Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Laura Martin from Needham. Your line is open. Laura Martin: 41:57 Good morning. Can you hear me okay, Adam? Adam Singolda: 41:59 Of course. How are you? Good morning. Laura Martin: 42:03 Hi, great numbers. Congratulations. Adam Singolda: 42:05 Thank you. Laura Martin: 42:07 My first question is on Openpass. So trade just said they're integrating this new product Openpass, which is designed to get rid of some of the bad players in the middle of the ad tech ecosystem? And could you remind us how much of your demand I know your two sided platform, but how much of your demand comes from third parties like the trade desk and other DSPs? And is this bad for you this Openpass where they're going directly to publishers? Or is it good for you somehow? But that's my first one. Adam Singolda: 42:38 Okay, let me start with this one. In general and I wrote about that in the letter, I think it's great to see that supply side companies are talking about supply path optimization, which means that they want to have more direct relationship with advertisers, so that most of the revenue is direct versus programmatic. And now we're seeing demand side companies hoping to work with publishers direct. So what we're seeing is that supply side companies want to become Taboola, and demand side companies wants to become Taboola and because Taboola right now, all of our publishers are direct exclusive and long-term, and 90% of our revenue. So about 10% is programmatic and third party companies who buy Taboola in that way, and about 90% is direct, which means they use SmartBid to optimize on a Taboola network, which makes us much more like, a Google or an Amazon in the sense that we're almost like a big consumer company, right? We ever on the one side, we have publishers direct with us. And that's a long-term agreement. So we see people today, we'll see them tomorrow. And on the advertiser side, 90% is direct. 43:39 So I think these are good dynamics, because it shows that other companies appreciate. Taboola’s current configuration and I think driving towards the same future, which is publishers direct, advertiser direct with some programmatic. And those are the trade desk. They're a friend and a partner. We work with them, work with Google, we work with many great demand side companies and that mainly is good for us because they can participate in our auction, and it can drive better yield, when that happens and some of that specific strategy. I don't think specifically, it was his short-term, it affects us because I'm not sure they haven't disclosed, what type of inventory exactly they're going to go after. So I don't really know, what is their strategy. But overall, I think that based on what we now do with the trade desk, I think we're more friends and it can drive growth for publishers the way I see it as of now. Laura Martin: 44:32 Okay, perfect. And then my second was on China. So I thought it was interesting in your notes that when you were talking about Connexity, you said that momentum of selling Connexity in Taboola by starting in China, and soon in the US. So I was curious, you now have 15% of your revenue from Connexity. How much of that is sitting in China? And do you feel any qualms about the rising geopolitical tensions between the US and China? Steve Walker: 44:56 Yeah, so right now a very small percentage of our revenue from Connexity is in China where, we're in the early stages of selling to the Chinese market, basically to the Chinese merchants as we call the e-Commerce advertisers. So we have – we've won a few deals, but we're very early. So it's a – it's a de minimis part of their revenue today. We do think it can be substantial in the future. I guess in terms of the rising geopolitical kind of challenges. I think, we're obviously going to watch it closely and make sure that nothing comes up. But I think as of now, our perception is that China is such an important part of kind of our overall economics system in the US that I don't see, I don't foresee a time when a good Chinese merchant who happens to sell into the US is going to be blackballed, because of that, or other the tensions, so I am not sure that it we see a short-term impact, but we obviously have to watch that closely as we go forward. Laura Martin: 46:02 Okay. Thanks, guys. Jennifer Horsley: 46:06 Operator, next question. Operator 46:06 Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Jason Helfstein from Oppenheimer, your line is open. Jason Helfstein: 46:14 Hey, thanks. I'm just trying to think about how we all think about a multiyear road story here. Whether it's thinking about, number of advertisers, number of publishers. In the release, you talked about new digital revenue partners were $21 million of growth and existing within five and so should we think about maybe trying to model like the existing property partners, and just thinking about a retention rate, you said, 110 in a quarter, I don't know, it's kind of how you're thinking about for the year. But if that's the right way to kind of do a multiyear model to get to the long-term targets that you guys have discussed. 46:53 And then the second, the – will you be providing the historical performance with Connexity for all of 2021. So we can think about 22 quarters organic versus pro forma growth. Thanks. Adam Singolda: 47:10 So in terms of the multiyear model, I think the way we've spoken about this, and the way we think about this is that we expect about 40% of our growth coming – going forward to come from new publishers that we bring on, our new digital property partners, and about 60%, to come from growing existing partners, that when we model our business internally, the way we do it is we basically look at it as a run rate business where next quarter equals this quarter plus new revenue we bring on, plus kind of our MDR from our existing publisher base. So and that obviously takes into account any sort of churn. And basically, since we're saying 40% of it comes from new publisher partners, and 60% of it comes from the growth of existing, you can kind of back into what the what those numbers look like. But that's the way we model our business and that's the way you know, we think about our business, you bring on new supply, but you also grow your existing supply. And I think the only other factor to factor into that is seasonality, which is obviously something that has changed a bit with acquiring Connexity, which is a more heavily fourth quarter oriented business than Taboola. Although Taboola is also weighted to Q4. So that's the only other thing you have to take into account. When you model the businesses when you're doing sequential quarters, you have to think in terms of what's the seasonality impact. 48:38 But generally speaking, that's the way we model the business. In terms of pro formas, for now, what we what we will definitely commit to is each quarter will tell you what the pro forma growth rate was we focus on ex-TAC, because Connexity they'll be reported on and they're going to be using that revenue or we'll be using that revenue accounting for them. So gross revenue doesn't mean anything for them. So we will give you the pro forma growth rates on ex-TAC every quarter so that you can understand how much of the growth, came from Taboola versus Connexity just by looking at the pro forma. So we'll provide that, we will consider doing full pro forma financials quarterly for 2021 at some point, but the challenge with it just to be blunt about it is they're not audited. And so we have to understand what we're allowed to do. Given that it's not I haven't done a full audit on a quarterly basis for them. So that's the only challenge there but in the meantime, we'll give you the pro forma growth rates so you can at least see what's the what's organic and what's from the acquisition in terms of our growth. Jason Helfstein: 49:48 And it just said Just a follow up I think when everyone was thinking through the impacts of IDFA. I think it was a pretty minimal impact on Taboola and maybe even positive from benefiting from the inflation in Android pricing. Now that Google is committed to doing something comparable, but probably more powerful, in that they're still gonna allow, some forms of measurement and targeting, but with new rules, just, granted it two years away, but just how are you thinking about that in the impact on Taboola? Steve Walker: 50:22 I can take this one. I overall, I mean, if I look at, you know, Apple, blocking cookies, and then with IDFA, starting from I think 2017, or yield, going up specifically for Safari and, in Q1, we beat our yield, expectation and we know, we feel comfortable raising our guidance, all of those, decisions and results are based on the fact that one 90% of our revenue comes from advertisers who buy from us direct, so they don't use, tracking that is being deprecated and things of that nature, they use our own data and our own AI. So that's a lot – that's a large portion of our revenue. And then specifically with SmartBid dimension, we're able to imitate retargeting and things that are sort of intent look likes, using what I read, and people like me to tweet similar things. So all of those dynamics are good for us. And I think that the more the future is, privacy driven, and context driven, especially with Connexity, we stand to rise on the back of those dynamics out for me, and for us, Google changes are good for the industry, they good for consumers, and they're good for Taboola. Jennifer Horsley: 51:35 Thanks, Jason. Jason Helfstein: 51:35 Thank you. Operator: 51:41 Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Stephen Ju from Credit Suisse, your line is open. Stephen Ju: 51:45 Okay, thank you. So, Adam, now that you've spent some more time with Connexity, can you talk about the typical sales cycle there versus, Taboola, as you talk to advertisers, typically, how long do you think it'll take for, an average advertisers to test, refine and get comfortable with Connexity and before you start seeing sort of major budget shifts going in that direction? 52:12 And, Steve, you've been doing this before and, but I think you're still one of the few CFOs out there offering a full year outlook and you touched on this with a longer-term. But can you talk about the various inputs that are informing the projection for 2022? Thanks, Adam Singolda: 52:28 Stephen, good morning. Thanks for joining. So, with regards to Connexity, similar to Dibble, that's a two sided marketplace, when you think about publishers and advertisers, I'll start with the publishers. It there's a – there's a short-term and long-term weight, its pacing, the short term is whatever content already exists on the publisher side, Connexity is able to the – the publisher solution is able to tap into those high intent signals, and those articles that have high intent and monetize those quite immediately. And then the midterm and long-term on the publisher side is how do you expand, and we spoke about that on the Connexity to the investor day? How do you expand the amount of content a publisher may have, so that that is relevant to them, so that a bigger portion of their site has high intent and as such high or a portion of e-Commerce revenue? So if you look at websites like USA today with review.com. Review.com is a whole world of e-Commerce content and high intent content, which they worked on for years creating. Same goes for Meredith's and hers can contain other grades publishers. And but that's still a small subset of the universe of publishers. So what I'm seeing is there's a short-term gains, and which just whatever people already have written, that has an intent, and then over time, they're going to use Connexity publisher solutions to you and our data, to know what to write about, that makes sense for them, and how they – and how to monetize that with us. So that's the publisher side. So there's a short-term and long-term, and then, you ever synergy, so all of what I'm saying can be, digested and included into our synergies forecast that you have. 54:05 On the advertiser side, it is a lot, it is a slow ramp. So, two-thirds or so of the businesses, CPC, and those, big retailers try for a while to see that it works for them and then I can tell you this looking at the past of Connexity one someone find success with Connexity, they tend to stay for a very long time. I think the tenure – the average tenure is over 10 years for those retailers, and they have some of the best ones. So it is a slow ramp. And they take our time, they're paying very high CPCs. But once it works – it sticks for over a decade. So we're still in you know with this in terms of seeing new sales cycles. But that's the dynamics I expect to see based on the past. Steve Walker: 54:53 And then in terms of your second question, Steven about kind of how we how we project growth and give guidance going forward. So I think one of the things that we really love about our business is that it's very predictable, especially relative, especially relative to other advertising based businesses. And that's because we've got committed supply. So we have long-term agreements, average tenure of our contracts is over 3 years in terms of on a revenue weighted basis. So we have committed supply and then we've got demand that basically scales with us. So it's all performance oriented as long as we're performing for these advertisers, they continue advertising with us. What that does is it makes our model very predictable and so we've, as you mentioned, and kind of related to what we were talking about with Jason just a moment ago, it's – it gives us the ability to forecast our business on a sequential basis as we go forward. And the way to think about our business is as a run rate. So next quarter, again equals last quarter plus the new business will bring on plus the change in the existing business. 56:01 And generally speaking, that's all very predictable. So if you look back at our historical sequential quarterly rates, it's actually you can see that it's fairly consistent. So you typically expect about a 16% decline in Q1, because of seasonality, you'd expect some slight growth in Q2 and Q3, you expect to be bumping Q4, like, if you just look at those historical numbers. It's very predictable and we feel very comfortable because of that history, being able to predict what our future quarters will look like. What's interesting, by the way is if you do that math, and you look back at historical quarters, there's one quarter historically, that really stands out sequentially and it's Q1 2020. 56:48 So Q1 2020 – sorry, Q1 2021 actually had a much lower decline from Q4 2020, than you would expect, it was only down about 4%, which is why it was just a historically, very strong quarter, and a bit of a tough comparison for us this year. But generally speaking, we feel very good about being able to predict our business because of the fact that we have that history. We understand where the growth comes from, and we've got committed supply and demand that scales with us. So it's – it's a very predictable model and we feel good about being able to project that out. Jennifer Horsley: 57:29 Thank you. Operator, I think you have one more question. Operator: 57:34 Thank you. For your question or comment comes from the line of Shyam Patil from SIG. Your line is open. Unidentified Analyst: 57:42 Hi, guys, this is Jared, on for Sean, thank you for taking the question. One for you. Just on the seasonality that you touched on a little bit there as well as provided earlier in the call. You're looking into the second half acceleration that you're seeing there. This is definitely more material than especially pre-pandemic, is that change entirely due to Connexity? Or are there other tailwinds that you're anticipating, as you look out to the second half. Adam Singolda: 58:13 So I think if you, as I just mentioned, if you look at our historical quarters, the acceleration, as you're talking about in the second half is really not an acceleration in the second half, the only change is that Q1 2021 was exceptionally strong. The dip from Q4 2022 Q1 2021 was only 4%. Historically, our dip from Q4 to Q1 is around 17%. So it's not really an acceleration of growth as you go throughout the year. It's really just an unusual comparison quarter last year. So, we can share more numbers on that. But that's if you look at the sequential growth rates historically, it's really not a an acceleration of growth throughout the year, it's kind of our normal pattern. There is about a few percentage point changes as to what we've shared. Yeah, if you listen to my opening remarks, I gave quarterly splits for what we expect this year on ex-TAC quarter-by-quarter. If you do the math on that, you'll see that that those quarterly splits align fairly closely with our historical average with a slight and by slight, I mean, 5% or 6% shift towards Q4 and that is basically that's the Connexity effect. So Connexity is a more heavily Q4, seasonal business than ours. So there's a slight shift there. But mostly the numbers are consistent with our history. Jennifer Horsley: 59:46 Great. Thanks, Jared. I think this is wraps it up. Adam, do you have any closing remarks. Adam Singolda: 59:53 Yeah. Thanks everyone again for joining us and I hope to see many of you on our Investor Day. I'm really excited about our vision and mission to help people discover things they may like and never knew existed. I'm convinced we have an opportunity to overtime become a personalization engine used by billions of people and be integrated wherever people spend our time every phone, every TV, every audio device, every car. And being a public company only for a few quarters, we had a record quarter record 2021, we grew 36%, our ex-TAC in 2021 and 25% performer. 60:28 Our EBITDA margins are north of 30%. And it gives me and us confidence to raise our guidance in 2022, which is such a good start for us as a new public company. Also, I think the world is getting tired from user tracking dynamics and again, it's a great time to be a company that is driven by contextual signals that are safe for people and works for advertiser. We're exactly where we need to be. So I'm looking forward to meeting and engaging with many of you over the next few weeks. And don't forget to tune in to our investor Day on March 29. We're gonna have our management team, clients, partners, it's going to be awesome. Thanks, everyone. Operator: 61:03 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may not disconnect. Everyone have a wonderful day.
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