SM Energy Company (SM) on Q2 2022 Results - Earnings Call Transcript
Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Angela, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the SM Energy Second Quarter 2022 Financial and Operating Results Q&A Call. I would now like to introduce Jennifer Samuels, VP of Investor Relations. You may now begin your conference. Jennifer Samuels: Thank you, Angela. Good morning, and thank you all for joining us for our second quarter 2022 Q&A call. To answer your questions today, we have our President and CEO, Herb Vogel; and CFO, Wade Pursell. Before we get started, our discussion today may include forward-looking statements and discussion of non-GAAP measures. I direct you to Slide 2 of the accompanying slide deck, Page 6 of the accompanying earnings release and the Risk Factors section of our most recently filed 10-K and 10-Q, which describe risks associated with forward-looking statements that could cause actual results to differ. We may also refer to non-GAAP measures. Please see the slide deck appendix and earnings release for definitions and reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures and discussion of forward-looking non-GAAP measures. Also, look for our second quarter 10-Q, which was filed this morning. With that, I will turn it back to Angela to open it up for questions. Angela? Operator: We will now take our first question from Zach Parham with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Zach Parham: Yes, thanks for taking my question. I guess first, just on the CapEx raise. Could you give us a little more detail on the decision to add a bit of activity to the 2022 program? And maybe just also detail how much of the increase in the budget is from that incremental activity versus the increased inflation expectations? Herb Vogel: Good morning, Zach, thanks for calling in. So on the -- how much is from continuing operations. The basic background is we've got some great crews that are out there working for us. And even when we look within those operators, those service providers, we have some of their best crews when they benchmark them against all the crews they have running. So we had about four months of activity that was open in the back part of the year, and we said let's close that down, and that was on the frac spread side. On the drilling side, we've been having improved penetration rates with our drilling, which is just one of those things we assume we're not going to have improvement and then we keep improving, and that was a benefit also. So there was some additional on the drilling side. So I think we mentioned it in the prepared remarks that we had about additional drills and have three turn-in lines later in the year. So we put in the capital for that. And so the way you can look at it, really, we just added some inflation of around 10% to 15% on the inflation side and then the remainder was for the continuing activity. So that's how you could look at it. Wade Pursell: Something that will roll into '23. Herb Vogel: Yes. And I should mention for 2023 is where we actually get the benefit of a lot of that completion. So there's some additional completion activity that does not result in an incremental turn in lines this year. That does result in more in 2023. So that helps you out on that one? Zach Parham: Yes, that's great color. My follow-up, really, just one thing we noticed in the guidance update. It looks like you're now completing five additional wells in South Texas, now up to 43 and two less wells in the Permian. Anything specific that drove that mix shift? Or is it more timing related? Really just looking for a little more color on that change? Herb Vogel: Yes. No, you picked it up, Zach. So really what that was is we had a larger gap in South Texas, so we closed that gap. It's primarily in South Texas on the frac spread side. And on the Permian side, it's just the timing around the end of the year on the turn in lines and we have two that turn in line at the -- after the start of the year. You probably noticed from 2Q, we wound up shifting some that just turned in line just after the start of the third quarter. So the same sort of thing. You just can't pin down exactly by a matter of a couple of days, which side of a end of month is going to be, that's all that is. Operator: Next, we have Gabe Daoud with Cowen. Your line is now open. Gabe Daoud: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for all the prepared remarks so far. Maybe just piggybacking off of Zach's question a bit more. Could you remind us, I think there are 20 completions in Midland that were supposed to -- or 20 wells there were supposed to be completed very early in '23, I think, January, February. Is that still the case? And then would just be curious with the -- with you securing additional equipment into '23, how does that change your view on volumes? Herb Vogel: So Gabe, that one is difficult to answer is just what we said actually previous quarter was that we had quite a few turn in lines in the beginning of 2023, and that was the result of four pads in the Permian with about 20 wells that we said, okay, they're actually going to start up on the other side of the year-end. So that's the crux of what's going on there. And what we're doing now really isn't changing that, those four pads any at all. And that's really driving the turn in lines this year versus next year in the Permian. It's just the size of the pads and the fact that you need to drill them, frac them and drill out the plugs, all before bringing on all 20 wells. And you can see how that's a massive amount of activity. Gabe Daoud: No, understood. That's helpful. And then maybe on the cash return, angle, I appreciate the prepared remarks from last night. But curious if you can maybe give us a little more color? And then also, do you anticipate you would do a little bit of a formulaic approach similar to peers where you would kind of allocate x percentage of free cash flow to shareholders Just curious how the framework could look. Herb Vogel: Yes. I'll just start that and then hand it over to Wade. Just I think it's just great how fast we've gotten this position to be able to return capital to shareholders. We're way ahead of what our original plans were. And it's just the underlying assets that we have, they keep on performing better than expected. Our base performance is doing great. The wells are doing great, the enhanced completion designs in the Permian have really paid off. And then the Austin Chalk has just continued to help us out on the upside. So with that, I'll just hand it over to Wade because that's really what's underpinning that free cash flow generation. Wade Pursell: Yes. No, I appreciate the question. And I'm not sure I can add a lot. It'd be able to premature to be getting into any specifics at this point, but we are really close. And that's very exciting being below 1x already and having a real line of sight to getting below that net debt target of $1 billion is obviously exciting. And what we shared with you in the prepared remarks, hopefully helps you think about how we're thinking about it right now. Your specific question about percent of free cash flow, it's too early for me to say anything about that. But we're going to do something that we're confident is very sustainable. And I'll just repeat that I mentioned, you could expect something in the fixed dividend area, an increase there and something that's very reliable that you can count on even at lower commodity prices. And we mentioned that our thinking right now would be something in terms of stock buyback. And we always have a view, an internal view on NAV. And by my comments saying that we thought that we feel like that's very appropriate at these prices, should obviously tell you that our current view of NAV is a higher number. And going forward, we would continue to analyze that. But that's probably all I should say at this point. Operator: Your next question comes from Michael Scialla with Stifel. Please go ahead. Michael Scialla: Good morning, guys. I wanted to follow up on the change in plans with the additional rig and crew or filling those gaps. I guess, I wondered how far you've contracted those? And I guess for all of your contracts, how far are you contracted? Are you into '23 and maybe any kind of insight you can provide on what you would expect when you re-up those contracts for next year? Herb Vogel: Yes, Mike, thanks for joining the call. There's quite a bit behind that question, actually, and it deals with the entire supply chain that we have. So let me just start with if you're going to have the drilling wells you need to have the tubulars ready to go with all the casing. And we're into 2023 on getting the firm allocation. And most of it, the price is locked down, there's some that in 2023, where you still have to pin that down. But -- so the supply chain we've got to basically run everything through the end of the year. On the rigs, we're actually not picking up incremental rigs here. We're just closing gaps that we had in the schedule where we would have given them a break for some period of time. So rig wise, it's the same number. It's just -- because we drilled faster than expected, we're getting more wells done. On the pumping service side, we're contracted, but those are different than rig contracts on the pumping service side, but we've got reliable commitment from the frac service providers we're using, and that is through the end of the year and into next year. So there's -- we know we can close those gaps without any problem at all. And we can continue on into next year without an issue either. Michael Scialla: Okay. I guess do you have any sense of what you might expect for inflation for next year based on what you've seen so far this year? Herb Vogel: No. We figured you guys to be wondering, it's just one of those things that after Russia invaded Ukraine, it was just really hard to figure out the supply chain. And we fortunately were -- had commitments through much of this year on most of what we needed. And then we locked that down real fast for this year and started going to next year much earlier than we normally would. And that went for steel. On sand, we've also now locked in our sand for 2023 for South Texas, which we had opened before. So we're progressively going through every single part of our supply chain, making sure we've got everything when we need it at the best price possible. But it's -- so in some cases, we know what our inflation would be for activities for some others, we don't yet know what it will be like. So it's going to be just part of our normal processes in the fourth quarter and as we get into the budget for 2023 when we'll pin all that down. Michael Scialla: Okay. Understood. And I wanted to ask, in your prepared remarks, Herb, you had mentioned 13 years of drilling inventory in the Midland Basin. And then you've got some exciting results from some new zones. Looking at Slide 16, you've got a lot of zones listed there. I'm just wondering what is built into that 13 years of inventory in terms of some of these new zones? And if they're not all built in, what the potential upside could be there in terms of the overall inventory of these new zones work out? Herb Vogel: Right. Mike, I'll just start by saying we have a little bit in every one of those 8 zones, but what we're really doing is expanding what the potential is in each of them. We run a normal annual process on that, which will really be in November. We'll start pinning that down on how much we've added in every interval. So we're not really going to update anything on inventory until usual year-end and then talk about them in February. It's just much more thorough, and it's just a comprehensive look at what we can do and with the same criteria that we've used in previous years. That's worked well for us, and we'll do that again. Last year, we fortunately were -- did a great job of replacing all the inventory we drilled up or completed in 2021, and we hope to have done the same thing in 2022. And we'll see at the end of the year, how that came out. Operator: We have a question from Zach Parham with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Zach Parham: Just one follow-up on the A&D market. Chesapeake announced they were going to be exiting their Eagle Ford position. And while that's still early on, and we don't know exactly what that sale process is going to look like. They do have some acreage that directly offsets your northern area in South Texas. Could that be something you're potentially interested in? And maybe just general thoughts on the A&D market in general? Herb Vogel: Yes. Zach, thanks for asking that. Yes, on the Austin Chalk, we think there's just some great acreage out there. You always got to look at what are the specific land terms and what are the specific midstream commitments on those sorts of things to really get an assessment of value. And I don't know how that looks. We always evaluate those, and it's something that makes sense for our shareholders. We'd obviously look at it. That's a very recent announcement. So I don't know how that will look. In general, it's hard to do A&D when commodity prices are where they are. And there's a pretty wide bid-ask spread from our understanding of how things look with -- between the sellers and potential buyers. The sellers are looking for the buyers to buy a strip and a buyer would be looking at more something mid-cycle or below to make sure they could get returns for their shareholders. So it's not a great time from a pure A&D perspective from our perspective. And we'll see where things shake out on commodity prices. But there's clearly some great acreage offsetting us in South Texas. Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Herb Vogel, President and CEO, for closing remarks. Herb Vogel: Yes. I'll just be really brief here. Thanks for joining the call. If you're wondering why invest in SM Energy now, I just want to repeat, we're producing really top-tier low breakeven assets in two excellent basins, and it's really a great time to be in SM stock. Thanks again. Have a great day. Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
SM Energy (NYSE:SM) Quarterly Earnings Preview
- SM Energy is set to release its quarterly earnings on May 1, 2025, with an expected EPS of $1.57 and revenue of approximately $819.8 million.
- The company's valuation is highlighted by a P/E ratio of 3.47 and a price-to-sales ratio of 1, indicating a potentially attractive investment opportunity.
- Concerns regarding liquidity are noted with a current ratio of 0.55, suggesting potential challenges in meeting short-term obligations.
SM Energy (NYSE:SM) is preparing to release its quarterly earnings on May 1, 2025. Analysts predict an earnings per share (EPS) of $1.57, with revenue expected to reach approximately $819.8 million. SM Energy is a company involved in the exploration and production of oil and natural gas, competing with other energy firms in the industry.
The anticipated year-over-year increase in earnings for SM is driven by higher revenues for the quarter ending March 2025. This positive outlook is supported by the consensus, which suggests a favorable earnings picture. However, the actual results compared to these estimates will play a crucial role in influencing the stock's near-term price movement.
SM's financial metrics provide insight into its valuation. The company has a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 3.47, indicating a relatively low valuation compared to its earnings. Additionally, the price-to-sales ratio is about 1, suggesting that its market value is nearly equal to its sales. These figures highlight the company's current market position.
The enterprise value to sales ratio of 2.01 and the enterprise value to operating cash flow ratio of 3.01 reflect SM's valuation in relation to its cash flow. The earnings yield of 28.86% measures the return on investment for shareholders, indicating a potentially attractive investment opportunity. However, the debt-to-equity ratio of 0.64 shows a moderate level of debt compared to equity.
Despite these positive indicators, SM's current ratio of 0.55 suggests potential liquidity concerns, as it is below the standard threshold of 1. This means the company may face challenges in meeting its short-term obligations. The management's discussion during the earnings call will be crucial in determining the sustainability of any immediate price changes and future earnings expectations.
SM Energy (NYSE:SM) Quarterly Earnings Preview
- SM Energy is set to release its quarterly earnings on May 1, 2025, with an expected EPS of $1.57 and revenue of approximately $819.8 million.
- The company's valuation is highlighted by a P/E ratio of 3.47 and a price-to-sales ratio of 1, indicating a potentially attractive investment opportunity.
- Concerns regarding liquidity are noted with a current ratio of 0.55, suggesting potential challenges in meeting short-term obligations.
SM Energy (NYSE:SM) is preparing to release its quarterly earnings on May 1, 2025. Analysts predict an earnings per share (EPS) of $1.57, with revenue expected to reach approximately $819.8 million. SM Energy is a company involved in the exploration and production of oil and natural gas, competing with other energy firms in the industry.
The anticipated year-over-year increase in earnings for SM is driven by higher revenues for the quarter ending March 2025. This positive outlook is supported by the consensus, which suggests a favorable earnings picture. However, the actual results compared to these estimates will play a crucial role in influencing the stock's near-term price movement.
SM's financial metrics provide insight into its valuation. The company has a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 3.47, indicating a relatively low valuation compared to its earnings. Additionally, the price-to-sales ratio is about 1, suggesting that its market value is nearly equal to its sales. These figures highlight the company's current market position.
The enterprise value to sales ratio of 2.01 and the enterprise value to operating cash flow ratio of 3.01 reflect SM's valuation in relation to its cash flow. The earnings yield of 28.86% measures the return on investment for shareholders, indicating a potentially attractive investment opportunity. However, the debt-to-equity ratio of 0.64 shows a moderate level of debt compared to equity.
Despite these positive indicators, SM's current ratio of 0.55 suggests potential liquidity concerns, as it is below the standard threshold of 1. This means the company may face challenges in meeting its short-term obligations. The management's discussion during the earnings call will be crucial in determining the sustainability of any immediate price changes and future earnings expectations.
SM Energy Company (NYSE:SM) Stock Price Target Trends and Earnings Expectations
- The consensus price target for SM Energy Company (NYSE:SM) has gradually decreased over the past year, indicating analysts' adjusted expectations.
- Analysts predict a decline in earnings for SM Energy in its upcoming report, influencing target price adjustments.
- Investors should consider various factors, including target price trends, company news, and industry developments, to make informed decisions.
SM Energy Company (NYSE:SM), based in Denver, Colorado, is an independent energy company that focuses on the acquisition, exploration, development, and production of oil, natural gas, and natural gas liquids. The company operates primarily in Texas, with a significant presence in the Midland Basin and South Texas. Over the past year, SM Energy's stock has experienced fluctuations in its consensus target price, reflecting changes in market conditions and company performance.
The consensus price target for SM Energy's stock has shown a gradual decrease over the past year. Last month, the average price target was $51.5, down from $53 in the previous quarter, and $55.09 a year ago. This trend suggests that analysts have adjusted their expectations, possibly due to various factors affecting the energy sector. As highlighted by Zacks, analysts are predicting a decline in earnings for SM Energy in its upcoming report, which may have influenced these target price adjustments.
John Gerdes from MKM Partners has set a price target of $52 for SM Energy, indicating a cautious outlook. Investors should be aware of the key expectations surrounding the company's upcoming earnings report. SM Energy plans to release its third quarter 2024 financial and operating results after market hours on October 31, 2024. The release will include an earnings report, a pre-recorded webcast discussing the results, and an associated presentation, all of which will be available on the company's website.
Investors interested in SM Energy should consider these target price trends alongside other factors, such as recent company news, earnings reports, and industry developments, to make informed decisions. The anticipated decline in earnings, as noted by Zacks, may impact investor sentiment and influence future price targets. Keeping an eye on the company's performance and market conditions will be crucial for those looking to invest in SM Energy.
SM Energy Company (NYSE:SM) Stock Price Target Trends and Earnings Expectations
- The consensus price target for SM Energy Company (NYSE:SM) has gradually decreased over the past year, indicating analysts' adjusted expectations.
- Analysts predict a decline in earnings for SM Energy in its upcoming report, influencing target price adjustments.
- Investors should consider various factors, including target price trends, company news, and industry developments, to make informed decisions.
SM Energy Company (NYSE:SM), based in Denver, Colorado, is an independent energy company that focuses on the acquisition, exploration, development, and production of oil, natural gas, and natural gas liquids. The company operates primarily in Texas, with a significant presence in the Midland Basin and South Texas. Over the past year, SM Energy's stock has experienced fluctuations in its consensus target price, reflecting changes in market conditions and company performance.
The consensus price target for SM Energy's stock has shown a gradual decrease over the past year. Last month, the average price target was $51.5, down from $53 in the previous quarter, and $55.09 a year ago. This trend suggests that analysts have adjusted their expectations, possibly due to various factors affecting the energy sector. As highlighted by Zacks, analysts are predicting a decline in earnings for SM Energy in its upcoming report, which may have influenced these target price adjustments.
John Gerdes from MKM Partners has set a price target of $52 for SM Energy, indicating a cautious outlook. Investors should be aware of the key expectations surrounding the company's upcoming earnings report. SM Energy plans to release its third quarter 2024 financial and operating results after market hours on October 31, 2024. The release will include an earnings report, a pre-recorded webcast discussing the results, and an associated presentation, all of which will be available on the company's website.
Investors interested in SM Energy should consider these target price trends alongside other factors, such as recent company news, earnings reports, and industry developments, to make informed decisions. The anticipated decline in earnings, as noted by Zacks, may impact investor sentiment and influence future price targets. Keeping an eye on the company's performance and market conditions will be crucial for those looking to invest in SM Energy.
SM Energy Reports Q1 EPS Beat But Revenues Lower Than Expected
SM Energy (NYSE:SM) reported its Q1 results, with EPS of $1.62 beating the Street estimate of $1.28. Revenue was $573.5 million, coming in worse than the Street estimate of $584.7 million.
Production outperformance in Q1 was largely related to improved well performance and bringing on 7 new wells a week early.
The strong performance from the South Texas wells and a good base decline on PDP wells bode well for free cash flow in 2023. Operational efficiency is also improving with faster drilling times resulting from co-development.
SM Energy Reports Q1 EPS Beat But Revenues Lower Than Expected
SM Energy (NYSE:SM) reported its Q1 results, with EPS of $1.62 beating the Street estimate of $1.28. Revenue was $573.5 million, coming in worse than the Street estimate of $584.7 million.
Production outperformance in Q1 was largely related to improved well performance and bringing on 7 new wells a week early.
The strong performance from the South Texas wells and a good base decline on PDP wells bode well for free cash flow in 2023. Operational efficiency is also improving with faster drilling times resulting from co-development.
