QUALCOMM Incorporated (QCOM) on Q3 2021 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Qualcomm Third Quarter and Fiscal 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded, July 28, 2021. The playback number for today's call is 877-660-6853. International callers, please dial 201-612-7415. The playback reservation number is 13720943. Mauricio Lopez-Hodoyan: Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Today's call will include prepared remarks by Cristiano Amon and Akash Palkhiwala. In addition, Alex Rogers and Don Rosenberg will join the question-and-answer session. You can access our earnings release and the slide presentation that accompany this call on our Investor Relations website. In addition, this call is being webcast on qualcomm.com, and a replay will be available on our website later today. During the call, we will use non-GAAP financial measures as defined in Regulation G, and you can find the related reconciliations to GAAP on our website. We will also make forward-looking statements, including projections and estimates of future events, business or industry trends, or business or financial results. Actual events or results could differ materially from those projected in our forward-looking statements. Please refer to our SEC filings including our most recent 10-K, which contain important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. And now, to comments from Qualcomm's Chief Executive Officer, Cristiano Amon. Cristiano Amon: Thank you, Mauricio, and good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. This is an amazing time to be part of Qualcomm. The need for technologies and products has never been more evident. We're seeing demand across virtually every industry, because our products and technologies are essential ingredients that enable digital transformation into cloud economy. We are leading and expect to continue to lead in mobile. In addition, we're also expect to lead the evolution of the connected intelligent edge by transforming connectivity and processing in cars, the enterprise, the home, smart factories, next-generation PCs and tablets, XR, wearables, and many more. This is the foundation of a revenue diversification strategy. The strong performance in our business has led to fiscal third quarter revenues and earnings per share that exceeded the high-end of our guidance. Most importantly, we are on track to realize approximately $10 billion in combined revenues across IoT, RF front-end and automotive in fiscal year 2021, validating the positive financial impact of our revenue diversification strategy. Let me provide you now with some additional details. The foundation of our IoT strategy is edge connectivity and processing for the growing cloud base economy. In consumer, we're seeing strong demand, driven by a consumer electronics upgrade cycle and growth in emerging product categories, such as XR and wearables. Akash Palkhiwala: Thank you, Cristiano and good afternoon, everyone. We are pleased to report another exceptional quarter in a challenging environment, as we continue to execute on our priorities, including 5G adoption, revenue diversification, and operating leverage. Our third quarter results were above the high-end of our guidance, with non-GAAP revenues of $8 billion, and non-GAAP EPS of $1.92. These results reflect 63% year-over-year increase in non-GAAP revenues and more than doubling of EPS driven by strength across QCT and QTL, including a partial recovery from the impact of COVID in the year ago period. QTL revenues of $1.5 billion and EBT margins of 71% were about the midpoint of our guidance. These results reflect the impact of a stronger mix offset by lower than expected units in China and India. QCT revenues of $6.5 billion and EBT margins of 28% were above the high-end of our guidance. EBT of $1.8 billion nearly tripled versus a year ago period on revenue growth of 70% and 12 points of EBT margin expansion. Handset revenues increased 57% year-over-year to $3.9 billion, driven by the adoption of 5G products in premium and high-tier devices across all major OEMs. Combined RF front-end, IoT and automotive revenues accounted for approximately 40% of total QCT revenues within the quarter and grew 1.6 times faster than handset revenues year-over-year. Mauricio Lopez-Hodoyan: Thank you, Akash. Operator, we are now ready for questions. Operator: Thank you. Our first question is coming from the line of Mike Walkley with Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question. Mike Walkley: Great. Thank you. Congratulations on the strong results. Just wanted to focus on the QCT margins. While June is seemingly a softer quarter, with Apple back in the model, the margins came in above your guidance and your guiding to a 30% sequentially. Could you, Akash, maybe provide any estimates, or supply constraints or expedited shipments? Did that adversely impact guidance at all? And it's 28% EBT margins is that now good to think of it as a floor and if not, what are some puts and takes that might move it lower over time? Akash Palkhiwala: Sure. Mike, thanks for the question. Really when you look at our operating leverage performance in the year, we were pretty happy with the way we've seen the operating margin expansion with revenue growth. If you look at what happened in the third quarter, we had a guidance midpoint of 25%. We came in at 28% and so that's on the strength largely of revenue coming in higher and then strong gross margin performance as well. And then, now we are forecasting a midpoint of 30% in the fourth fiscal quarter. So, really when you think about it, going forward, we plan our margins around revenue scale and R&D investments, and the trick really for us is to optimize those two. As we mentioned in our prepared remarks, as we exit the fiscal year, we feel like we're in a very strong position from a design win perspective to continue to grow revenues. And as we optimize investments against it, I think we have an opportunity to continue to expand our operating margins. Mike Walkley: Okay. Thanks. And just for my follow-up, maybe for Cristiano. Just focusing on the IoT business, the impressive 83% year-over-year growth. You maybe you're going to say this for the analysts to today, but how should we think about -- what's a reasonable CAGR for this business and how much of the business today is 5G, and what could 5G do in terms of growing the IoT business? Cristiano Amon: Thanks Mike. That's a great question. We're very excited about this business for a number of reasons. First is, is very diversified. There's a lot of things in our IoT segment. It has consumer, it has networking and it has industrial. And what we see is really secular growth trends, which is all based to an accelerated digital transformation. And we are going to provide a lot more details about how we think about growth rates of this business in our Analyst Day. It is one of the largest SAM expansion opportunity for Qualcomm. It is highly diversified and it has not only higher growth rates then handsets. I think Akash outlined the 1.6 times are non-handset growth rate, but also is accretive to more -- to margins and create operating leverage. So, stay tuned for more, but we're very happy about what we see with IoT right now. Operator: Thank you. Our next question is coming from Chris Caso with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question. Chris Caso: Yes. Thank you. Good afternoon. I guess for the first question, you can talk about what generated the upside in the quarter as compared to your expectations. Was it a matter of getting more supply? Because I know supply constraints were a big concern coming in. And then if you could talk to us about the status of those supply constraints going into the end of the year? You talked about getting some additional supply. Does that benefit the December quarter, or where does that supply come farther out in time? Akash Palkhiwala: Hey, Chris. It's Akash. So, let me try to answer both of your questions and I'm sure Cristiano can add comments to it. For the third fiscal quarter, as you know, our guidance midpoint was $1.65. We came in at $1.92 and really most of the upside was driven by QCT. We did come in a slightly stronger than QTL, which was really just a trade off between slightly lower units on -- in India and China, the low tier, but offset by stronger product mix, especially with 5G in various regions. So that helped us. Going over to QCT, what we really liked about the growth that we saw in the quarter is really we saw strength across all the different revenue streams. So, it's not just handsets, but also IoT and RF front-end and auto. And within that, we had a stronger mix, product mix that helped us. And as we just discussed on the IoT side, significant upside, $100 million higher than the revenue guidance we had given. So that helped as well. And then maybe the last thing I'll highlight is gross margin performance. We're pretty happy with the gross margin performance in the quarter. So, those were kind of all the key factors that contributed to it. Turning over to supply, as we said and Cristiano's prepared remarks, consistent with what we provided last time, we continue to expect that supply will improve materially by the end of the year. And it's really a combination of two drivers. We're seeing multi-sourcing initiatives that we've put in place over the last several months. We're seeing the benefit of that as we can use available capacity across the foundries. And then the second is really, previously planned capacity builds with some of our suppliers that comes online towards the end of the year as well. So both of those initiatives that we have previously discussed are in play and that's helping us. The first one of our multi-sourcing product, we'd recently commercialized and we have a couple more coming up. So, that's really -- you're seeing some of the benefits of those initiatives in our September quarter guide. And we'll see even more benefit in the December quarter guide. Cristiano Amon: Chris, this is Cristiano. And only thing I would like to add is, in spite of having great results, both revenue and EPS, all exceeding the right end of our guidance. We still have demand outpacing supply. We're -- we have more demand and supply across all of our business. And as you look up our guide in the next quarter, it's consistent with the statement we made that we see material improvement in supply to Qualcomm by the end of the year. And that's great news. And -- but overall, we continue to see a strong demand in every single business outpacing supply. Chris Caso: That’s very helpful. Thank you. For my follow-up, I wanted to address one of the investor concerns to give you the opportunity to address it. And that's the modem socket at Apple. And of course, Apple has expressed that they're also working on their own modems. So that's a concern to investors. I know that getting Apple, it's limited -- you're limited in what you can say on that, but I guess I wanted to hear what you could say on it. And perhaps if you could talk about perhaps the magnitude of that risk, if Apple were to take that path, what would it mean for Qualcomm? Cristiano Amon: Thanks for your follow-up question. Two answers for you and not any different than what you would expect from Qualcomm. I think, the very first one, yes, we're very happy with relationship with Apple. We're just on their first phone. We have other phones to go and we're very happy with it, the way things are progressing. At the end of the day, you should always think of Qualcomm. We have always been really focused on seller technology, the first with every new generation of wireless and as long as modem continued to be relevant, there's always going to be a place for Qualcomm in this business. The second part of the answer, which I think is the most important and an opportunity to address investor concerns is the biggest opportunity for Qualcomm in mobile is the changes that are happening in the mobile landscape right now. As a matter of fact, this quarter Xiaomi is now the number two OEM and award and shipments. And we see the shifts in OEM market share create an incredible opportunity for us. Snapdragon became synonymous with Android premium and high-tier. That is how are we going to go faster than the market and incredible opportunity for revenue and earnings, looking at the whole value of the Snapdragon platform. We're super focused on executing on this opportunity, and it's going to be one of the key drivers of growth in Qualcomm handset strategy going forward. Operator: Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Samik Chatterjee with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question. Samik Chatterjee: Hi. Good afternoon. Congrats on the results. Hi, Cristiano. Hi, Akash. Just -- maybe I wanted to start off here on the RF -- results on the RF side and really great progress there. Does sound like you're on track, and targeting to become one of the largest RF suppliers. Just if you can give us more of an update. I know you do it more annually, but update on where you stand in terms of share relative to some of the incumbents there? And what's driving the conference here, particularly as you go into heavy period of design wins and launches, what's driving the confidence about getting to that pole position in that market. And then I have a follow-up as well. Akash Palkhiwala: Hey, Samik. It’s Akash. Thanks for your question. Overall, on the RF front-end side, the starting point for us obviously always is, having the right product portfolio. And so, over the last three years, we've been investing in the breadth of the portfolio and we are in a very good place. I think, as you look forward, not only are we the leaders in the modem to RF end-to-end system solutions, but also each individual component within RF front-end. We feel like we're in a very competitive and strong product position. The second is just the design win pipeline that we have in front of us. We have great relationships with the OEMs in the mobile industry. And so that relationship then extends into providing an end-to-end solution for them. And so, as we look forward and based on our conversations to commitments we have from the OEMs on the designs, we feel very confident that we have an upward trajectory going forward. And then finally, in terms of scale, really when we look at the scale within handsets, we already feel like we're maybe the largest player in the industry in RF front-end. And the opportunity for us is as 5G expands outside, how do we take our position in the handsets while we continue to grow within handsets, but also take it outside and grow in other areas. Samik Chatterjee: For my follow-up, Akash, you talked about the growth in handsets, just kind of thinking a bit more longer term and into next year, how should we think about what's the primary driver here is? Is it still content increase as you get more on 5G phones, or is it really the $10 billion Huawei TAM that you've talked about? And in that context, can you talk about MediaTek products and the competitive landscape there and how that's evolving? Akash Palkhiwala: Yeah. So maybe I'll address the first part and then Cristiano can address the MediaTek competitive landscape. Overall, I think the answer to your question is all of the above, right? We clearly have a long ways to go within 5G. We're at the front-end of it. And we're going to see the rest of the tiers transition over as well. And as that happens, we still think the metric that we gave previously of a 1.5 X multiplier on our revenue and margin opportunities still holds. In addition to that, as you're seeing the changing OEM landscape is benefiting us with our customers winning share. And as that happens, when you combine that with our product portfolio within 5G and design commitments from our customers, especially in the premium and high-tiers, that positions us to grow significantly as we move into fiscal 2022. Maybe a quick data point to give on Honor, they are in the process of launching three phones with us. One is a premium-tier Snapdragon 888 phone, and then two in the high-tier. And so, it's just an example of how we are expanding our customer base. Cristiano Amon: Hi, Samik. So, really simple answer, not to talk about MediaTek, but we think that there's plenty of opportunities for growth for us in other companies in the changing landscape. What is really important for Qualcomm, and I'll give a couple of metrics. One outlined by Akash, not only we have a strong roadmap, but we have customer commitments to premium and high-tier designs for Qualcomm. The total design wins for Snapdragon 800 increased 20% quarter-over-quarter, and all for total 5G design wins, half for the design is Snapdragon 8 Series. So that -- it's the clear indication about Qualcomm opportunity into premium and high, where we can capture the majority of the value of the market. And we look at the growth of handset segment -- I know we talk a lot about a growth upside handset, but handsets up 6 billion year-over-year. Q3, 2021 handset revenue up 57%. So that's a clear indication that we're in the good position. We see that as one of the largest growth opportunities we have for the handset business, and we'll continue to be executing into this new TAM with a premium and high-tier devices. Operator: Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Ross Seymore with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question. Ross Seymore: Hi, guys. Thanks for letting me ask you a question. I guess this is my first one. I wanted to ask a question on gross margins to Akash. It's impressive that you guys grew your gross margin 70 basis points sequentially, despite the QCT side of the equation dropping in your mix. So, I just wanted to get into a little bit about what's driving that upside in gross margin in the quarter. And more importantly, structurally going forward, given the new markets you're entering into the position you guys have in the market, is there anything structurally that would keep you from getting a gross margin more aligned to kind of even the mid-fifties range where a lot of your fabless peers currently reside. Akash Palkhiwala: Hey, Ross. Thanks for your question. Yeah. As I said earlier, I think pretty happy with how we did on the gross margins. It's really a combination of a couple of things. One is just having a stronger mix of products. And so, as we see more adoption of our solutions at premium and high-tier, that helps our percent gross margin profile in addition to the dollar margins. The second is really mix of businesses and it leads into your second point is as we grow into these other areas, automotive and IoT, our margin profile at the gross margin level help is -- that growth helps the gross margin profile. And so, that's a key factor for us going forward, as you rightly noted. Ross Seymore: Great. Thanks for that color. And yeah, I should have clarified that the mid-fifties gross margin would be for the QCT side, not overall. But I guess as my follow-up question separately, whether it's Cristiano or Akash, how should we think just pluses and minuses for the calendar fourth quarter, you have a lot of different dynamics, the timing of premium launches, new launches from the Huawei, Honor, China ecosystem supply coming on board. So just a lot of different puts and takes that could make historical seasonality really be thrown out the window. So, any sort of just even directional color there on those puts and takes would be helpful. Akash Palkhiwala: Sure. So, as you know, well, it's a seasonally strong quarter for the company overall. And let me just maybe quickly hit the two businesses. Within QTL, we've said in the past that we expect the holiday quarter to be around $1.7 billion range. So, at this point we're not seeing anything different at this point to give separate data points. On the QCT side, we expect the seasonality to be a favorable thing for all of our businesses. So not just handsets, but RF front-end, IoT and auto. And so, we'll see a typical seasonal benefit. Within handsets, obviously we're getting the benefit from the launch of new handsets that happened during that time, especially in the premium and high-tier, and then, some supply improvements coming into the picture as well. The one thing to keep in mind as a reminder last year, we had a higher than normal sequential increase from September to December quarter. And that was obviously because of two reasons that we would not have this time. First is Apple coming back as a customer to Qualcomm. And so that exaggerated the seasonality. And then also, there was a delay in their phone launch. So, those are two key factors. If you compare to last year, that'd be -- would not be factors that would imply this year. Operator: Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Blayne Curtis with Barclays. Please proceed with your question. Blayne Curtis: Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question and appreciate the detail on the IoT business that you released. Obviously, a very broad business. So I'm wondering if any way you can dial it in and maybe by the three sub-segments to where you've seen the strength, obviously the business nearly doubled since you started breaking it out. I know there's a lot of segments in there. I know it's pretty diverse. So, I was just curious, how you would answer the question as to -- within these segments, where are you seeing the most strength? Akash Palkhiwala: Yeah. Blayne, it's Akash. Let me take a crack at that. If you look at what happened in our IoT business this year, we were somewhere in the $1.1 billion range -- revenue range for March. We grew to $1.4 billion. And as I mentioned earlier, we feel like we're in a strong position to continue to grow that revenue stream. So, pretty interesting trends for us. When you break down the business and we broke it down in the slide you're referring to in three buckets. We had edge networking, consumer and industrial. Neither of those are dominant category. So, you should think of all three as contributing very materially to the total amount of revenue. Maybe I'll highlight a couple of things. Within edge networking, both the WiFi access point business and the 5G fixed wireless business, they’re both very strong for us. And especially when you think about the 5G fixed wireless business, we're really at the very front-end of that having very material impact for us. So, we're looking forward to the growth that that offers to us over the next several years. In the consumer business, clearly there is a very broad set of products we have. The revenue is split between several products. But then also as you look forward, the opportunity within the next-generation PCs and AR/VR are very material things that could be growth -- material growth drivers going forward. And then within industrial, that’s a very broad field and we are really not even in the first innings on that market. So, long ways to go for us. And we're excited all these markets are looking for technologies from us. Operator: Thank you. Our next question is coming from Matt Ramsay with Cowen. Please proceed with your question. Matt Ramsay: Yeah. Thank you very much. Good afternoon. I guess, my first question goes back to the TAM, that is you guys outlined $10 billion from what Huawei is exiting and your customers are going to go into. We've been all trying to track as Huawei has kind of depleted their own inventory and now yourselves and MediaTek are growing into that business again some supply constraints. So, of that $10 billion TAM, that’s out there for you, just ballpark about how much do you think you can realistically address in the September quarter? And how much of that TAM is still ahead of you guys as you go into fiscal 2022? Thanks. Akash Palkhiwala: Thanks Matt for that question. We will stay away from kind of breaking down that TAM. I don’t think we have that level of precision in kind of estimating our opportunity going forward. What gives us confidence that we will get a portion of it in the September quarter, but really this is a big tailwind for us going into fiscal 2022 is our conversations with the OEMs, commitments from them on designs, and really the supply improvements that we will get at the end of the year. And so, those are the three kind of factors that play into our confidence as we go into fiscal 2022. Matt Ramsay: Got it. Thanks. And as my follow-up, I wanted to ask a question, Cristiano on your automotive business, it seems really well positioned and you guys have talked about the pipeline growing with 5G connectivity being a fulcrum, and then the ability to do WiFi, GPS, Bluetooth, in-dash display, et cetera, on the same integrated platform. I guess, what's the competitive landscape like that across those sockets for Qualcomm right now. And what kind of ASPs are you guys envisioning for that business, if as you would sell it as an integrated solution including RF? Thanks. CristianoAmon: Thanks Matt for the question. Look, we really like our position in this space, especially because the trends of connecting the car to the cloud. It’s just the first step where you can do within the telematics or to connect the communications box in the car. You can add to that WiFi, Bluetooth as you outlined, but also Cellular-V2X capabilities. So, a long roadmap. I think we have a very strong position given our understanding of the market, and the ability to provide a very modular solution. I think, we're highly differentiated in the space, and it's really showing based on our design wins. Also, you're starting to see digital cockpit becoming more material in the revenue, which is really a much richer silicon opportunity for us. As we look at dashboard, the infotainment, rear seat entertainment, heads up display, smart mirrors, smart side view mirrors and so forth. And there is a completely redesign of the in-car experience. I will argue today, Qualcomm is now winning the absolute majority of premium-tier car RFPs. We are engaged with 23 of the 26 brands, highly differentiated in the space also because we can take a system approach connecting all those different systems together. You should start thinking about our automotive business, as there are going to be a digital chassis than automotive company will have to build. And we are differentiated, because we have capabilities across multiple domains and it's starting to reflect in the magnitude of our contracted pipeline. Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joe Moore with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Joe Moore: Great. Thank you. I wonder how the end of kind of supply chain tightness and shortages affects your EBIT margin in QCT. And is there kind of an active process of thinking that through, can we trade off some of that 30% EBIT margin to retake some share, that maybe we lost? Or is it sort of -- just how are you approaching that? And is there an ambition to achieve a certain EBIT margin, or a certain market share and what's the trade off between those two things? Akash Palkhiwala: Joe, it's Akash. Our framework on margins really is unchanged from the way we outlined it at Analyst Day last year. It's really a combination of two things. It's optimizing the gross margins and the way we do that is a combination of the mix between premium high-tiers where the gross margins are lot more attractive in handsets versus the lower-tiers. And then second is focusing on diversification outside, and so that adds scale to the margin profile. The next point I'd maybe highlight is a lot of the technology that funds the growth in IoT and auto is coming from mobile. So, mobile technology is being reused in these areas in very large scale and that allows us to really get the operating leverage benefit that we were planning for. And then, of course, we are balancing that with R&D investments and making sure we're investing in the right things that position us to continue to win in these exciting areas in the long term. So, it's a combination of those factors. Joe Moore: Great. Thank you. Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Rod Hall with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question. Rod Hall: Yeah. Hi. Thanks for the question. I wanted to dig into millimeter wave a little bit. Last quarter you said, it was about 20% of RFFE revenues. I wonder if you could tell us what it was this quarter. And then, if you might be able to indicate whether you expect that to continue. I mean, assuming it’s risen, do you expect to continue to rise where did that end the year, the calendar year for you? That’s my first question, and then I have a follow-up. Akash Palkhiwala: Yeah. Hi, Rod. It's Akash. I'll give you the metric on it and then I'll defer to Cristiano to add color on top of it. From a percent of total RFFE revenue, this quarter was not that different than last quarter in pretty similar range. When you think about it very long-term going into next year and the following year, as millimeter wave gets deployed, we expect that to be a vector for growth within RF front-end, so it will become a larger percent of the total pie. Cristiano Amon: Rod, on the second part of your question, here is how millimeter wave is tracking. Everything aligned over expectations commercial networks, United States, Japan, Italy and Singapore. The upcoming one is South Korea, Germany. There are some countries in Western Europe, Southeast Asian, and Russia, as well. And during the MWC Barcelona, the recent trade show, 150 carriers around the world indicated they are investing in millimeter wave technology. So, we’re excited about that. And we continue to highlight what we think could be an incredible upside opportunity to the model, which is millimeter wave going to China. We are continued to be engaged in -- for the Winter Olympics in early 2022, and if there becomes a broader deployment in China, you should expect a lot of upsides to our model. Rod Hall: Great. Okay. And then, I wanted to dig into the China weakness a little bit more. I know that you guys called it out in your comments, there is the Huawei opportunity I got. But curious if you could just comment on the wider market there, the weakness that we are seeing in handsets. Do you think this is just consistent with the maturity of that market? Do you think there are macro factors that are coming into play here? Could you just give us a little bit more color on what you think is going on in China? And maybe what the outlook there is in the next six months or so? Thanks. Akash Palkhiwala: Yeah. Rod, it's Akash. I think, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we did see some weakness within the quarter relative to your expectations in China and in India. A lot of the weakness we saw was at the low-tier. So, the phenomena we saw is really kind of weaker low-tier, but then mix shift towards the high-end in these markets. And so, that’s a key trend that we are monitoring, which obviously on net/net, the mix shift is a very positive thing for us. The impact in India that we saw in the June quarter, obviously was related to the COVID situation there. And so, as that improves and has improved materially already, we would expect that some of those units come back into the September quarter and that's been factored into our guide. Operator: Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Timothy Arcuri with UBS. Please proceed with your question. Pradeep Ramani: Hi. This is Pradeep Ramani for Tim Arcuri. I had a couple of questions. Maybe the first one, just given the recent Intel announcement where you're partnering with Intel or IFS, what sort of commitment is this on your part? Is that sort of a volume commitment at this point? I realize it's some ways out, but it would be fair to say that it's going to service the U.S. customer? Cristiano Amon: Hi. Thanks for the question. Look, it's exactly very simple. Qualcomm, we are probably one of the few companies that given our scale is able to have multi-sourcing at the leading node. We have two strategic partners today, which is TSMC and Samsung. And we're very excited and happy about Intel deciding to become a foundry and investing in leading node technology to become a foundry. I think that’s great news for the United States, fabless industry. We are engaged. We are evaluating their technology. We don't yet have a specific product plan at this point, but we're pretty excited about Intel entering into this space. I think, we all determine that semiconductors are important, and resilient supply chain is only going to benefit our business. Pradeep Ramani: Okay. And for my follow-up, can you provide some more color on how the licensing -- the 5G related licensing agreement work for the non-smartphone adjacency? Is there sort of a price cap, or is it revenue based? Or can you provide some color on the arrangement? Akash Palkhiwala: So, what you see with QTL right now is in the top line numbers that you're seeing result of executing on long-term agreements with the major handset OEMs. On the non-handset side, we've had license agreements in place for a long time. Some of those agreements are on a percentage basis. Some of the agreements are on a dollars per unit basis. We don't break out those individual agreements or the collective non-handset revenue, but we're moving forward successfully with 5G in the automotive space and then the IoT space, as well. It’s just the overall revenue is a relatively smaller part of -- the overall non-handset revenue is relatively smaller part of our overall licensing revenue, so we don't break it out. Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Brett Simpson with Arete Research. Please proceed with your question. Brett Simpson: Yeah. Thanks very much. Cristiano, you made a lot of references to the Snapdragon 888 in your prepared remarks. And I wanted to ask more broadly about the Android flagship opportunity you see ahead. And I guess, historically, Huawei and Samsung has kind of dominated this segment, and that’s limited your share to some extent in flagship. But can you just share with us just your perspective on how you think this market plays out for Qualcomm? And what sort of market share you think you can attain? And what sort of timeframe do you think it takes to fully supply this segment of the market? Thanks. Cristiano Amon: Great question. Look, the market right now is a lot more favorable. And I want to take a minute to outline this. It used to be highly concentrated. If you look at the opportunity right now we have, we have a great relationship with Samsung, which is expanding. We have a relationship with Xiaomi, OPPO, Vivo, all in the premium-tier. We have a relationship with Honor. In record time, we launched Snapdragon 888 with Honor, the Magic3 device. So, if you look, it’s a much healthier market. You have at least five companies at scale that driving the premium-tier, and that creates an incredible opportunity for us. And as you know, the Snapdragon premium-tier devices, there are lot more revenues and earnings compared, for example, to just a modem technology alone. And the last comment I want to make into this, we're just at the beginning of this opportunity. We're showing with 5G a much better mix across the devices. The market is moving towards premium and high. We're very well-positioned in this space. And over time, we find investments we have been doing in CPU with NUVIA. We expect to take the differentiation to a whole another level. Thank you. Brett Simpson: Thanks Cristiano. Maybe just a quick follow-up on automotive, because obviously with the backlog growing to $10 billion, what sort of silicon content do you think Qualcomm can address in autos? I mean, you talked about digital cockpit, and there are obviously 5G, and there is RF. When you add it all up, what sort of total silicon can Qualcomm address say by the middle of the decade in integral cars? Cristiano Amon: There is a lot of silicon opportunities for Qualcomm, and not to make an ASP disclosure. We will provide a lot more color in our Analyst Day, especially how all of the different elements of the digital chassis is evolving. But you see in the automotive business an opportunity for a lot more silicon content and much higher ASPs that we see in other business. Operator: Thank you. Our final question is coming from the line of Srini Pajjuri with SMBC. Please proceed with your question. Srini Pajjuri: Thank you. I have a clarification and a question. First, on the RF business in the quarter that you reported, Akash. Historically, I've seen kind of handset and RF move hand-in-hand. But this quarter I think RF grew about 5% or 6%, and the handsets declined about 4% or 5%. Just trying to understand what explains that discrepancy? Akash Palkhiwala: Yeah. Hi, Srini. There are couple of reasons. One is, you will see some differences in purchase timing for various things within our portfolio. So, sometimes RF components are purchased earlier that are not explicitly tied to a specific handset, so sometimes you see a timing difference that impacts these things. And then second is design wins, right? While RF is largely thought of as an attach business for our Qualcomm baseband, we do have business outside of Qualcomm baseband. So, we do attach to other devices and so that also becomes a different factor. Srini Pajjuri: Got it. And then on the QTL side, I think you said for the Q4, the run rate should be about $1.7 billion in the peak quarter. Just trying to understand, how we should think about growth in this business, Akash, because obviously you're guiding for handset units to grow high single digits and obviously 5G is potentially doubling or even more than that. And some of the adjacencies are adapting 5G. So, as we look into next year or two, can you talk about some of the potential growth drivers? I mean, whether it's in low end or mid end smartphones adapting 5G, or some of their adjacencies. I'm just curious as to why we are not seeing a bit more pronounced growth here. Thank you. Akash Palkhiwala: Yeah. Srini, I'll reiterate what we said at the Analyst Day a couple of years ago. When you look at our licensing business, we kind of have a base case for the business and we think of it other things as upside opportunities. The way to model our business is really, you have our June quarter numbers and then we are forecasting September and then we gave a data point for December. So, those are reasonable data points to project forward to get to an annual number for the licensing business. There are few things that could drive upside on top of that, but again we think of it as upside opportunities. The growth outside handsets is a factor. Second is, as I mentioned earlier in the call, we're seeing a mix shift, that's very positive for us. And so, as mix shift continues, we will see the benefit in QCT, but we'll also see the benefit in QTL. And so that would be another upside driver and especially with 5G penetrating the lower tiers, there will be a factor for QTL as well. And again, it would show up through better ASPs and as a result better revenues. So, hopefully that helps in framing the forward path for it. Operator: Thank you. That concludes today's question-and-answer session. Mr. Amon, do you have anything further to add before adjourning the call? Cristiano Amon: Thanks everyone for joining us on the call today. Once again, I would like to say thank you to our employees who are staying focused and delivering results. I look forward to leading Qualcomm, leading in 5G and building on the success of our diversification strategy. Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. 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Qualcomm Initiated at Hold with $180 Price Target Amid Slowing Growth Outlook

Melius Research initiated coverage on Qualcomm (NASDAQ:QCOM) with a Hold rating and a price target of $180, reflecting a valuation of approximately 14 times the firm's fiscal 2027 earnings per share estimate of $12.52.

The analysts acknowledged Qualcomm's long-standing reputation as a pioneer in mobile technology and its track record of innovation in high-performance chipsets. However, concerns over slowing growth weighed on the outlook. Revenue growth is projected to decelerate from high single digits to just 3% over the next two years, significantly lagging the mid-teens average of comparable companies in an AI-driven market cycle.

This anticipated slowdown led to a valuation at the lower end of the peer group, tempering expectations despite Qualcomm’s strong intellectual property and attractive positioning within the semiconductor industry.

Qualcomm (NASDAQ:QCOM) Coverage Initiated by Loop Capital Markets

  • Loop Capital Markets has initiated coverage on Qualcomm (NASDAQ:QCOM) with a "Hold" rating and a stock price of $168.29.
  • Qualcomm's strong performance in its fourth-quarter earnings report, particularly in handset revenue and AI chip performance, positions the company for future growth.
  • The company announced a $15 billion stock repurchase program, despite concerns over future growth due to potential competition from Apple's in-house 5G modems.

On November 11, 2024, Loop Capital Markets initiated coverage on Qualcomm (NASDAQ:QCOM) with a "Hold" rating. At that time, the stock price was $168.29. Qualcomm is a leading player in the semiconductor industry, known for its innovations in wireless technology and AI chips. It faces competition from companies like Intel and MediaTek.

Qualcomm's shares have been stagnant recently, but the growing AI smartphone market is expected to benefit the company. In its fourth-quarter earnings report, Qualcomm exceeded expectations, showing strong growth in handset revenue and AI chip performance. This positions the company well for future growth, despite the current "Hold" rating.

The company's valuation is attractive, with a low price-to-earnings ratio and strong projected revenue growth. This presents significant upside potential for investors. Despite the positive earnings report, analysts remain divided on the future prospects of the handset market, which could impact Qualcomm's performance moving forward, as highlighted by Benzinga.

Qualcomm has announced a substantial $15 billion stock repurchase program, reflecting confidence in its financial health. However, concerns about future growth persist due to Apple's potential shift to developing its own in-house 5G modems. This transition could reduce Qualcomm's revenue by 3% from fiscal year 2026 to 2028.

Despite these challenges, Qualcomm's Snapdragon 8 Elite and growth in the AI PC market present potential opportunities. The current stock price of $168.29 reflects a decrease of 1.533% or $2.62. Over the past year, QCOM has reached a high of $230.63 and a low of $122.63, with a market capitalization of approximately $186.97 billion.

Qualcomm Surges 8% on Strong Earnings and Promising Outlook

Qualcomm (NASDAQ:QCOM) rallied more than 8% in pre-market today after posting stronger-than-anticipated fourth-quarter results and providing robust guidance, signaling an upturn in smartphone chip demand. The company also announced a substantial $15 billion stock buyback program.

For the quarter, Qualcomm reported adjusted earnings per share of $2.69 on revenue of $10.24 billion, surpassing Wall Street expectations of $2.56 EPS on $9.9 billion revenue. The outperformance was largely fueled by its core handset chip division, which recorded a 12% sales increase to $6.10 billion year-over-year.

Looking ahead to the first fiscal quarter, Qualcomm projected adjusted EPS between $2.85 and $3.05, with anticipated revenue ranging from $10.5 billion to $11.3 billion. This guidance at the midpoint exceeded analyst estimates of $2.87 EPS on $10.61 billion in revenue.

Wolfe Research Downgrades Qualcomm Amid Concerns Over Apple's Internal Modem Impact

Wolfe Research downgraded Qualcomm (NASDAQ:QCOM) to Peer Perform from Outperform, expressing growing concerns about the potential impact of Apple’s development of its own internal modem on Qualcomm's future revenue streams. The downgrade also involved removing the price target for Qualcomm’s stock, reflecting the increasing uncertainty surrounding the company's outlook.

Initially, Qualcomm had downplayed the threat posed by Apple's internal modem project, leading many in the market to adopt a skeptical stance. Wolfe Research acknowledges that Apple’s efforts to create its own modem have been an ongoing challenge, often dismissed as unlikely to materialize. However, new information suggests that Apple's modem development is now on track to enter the market, which could pose a significant threat to Qualcomm's core business.

Wolfe Research pointed out that Qualcomm had previously expected to supply modems for only 20% of the iPhone 18 models, a forecast that now appears overly optimistic. The analysts now foresee a more substantial impact, starting with the iPhone SE expected in the spring, followed by a more extensive rollout with the iPhone 17. By the time the iPhone 18 launches, Apple’s modem could be in nearly all of its phones outside the U.S., significantly diminishing Qualcomm's market share.

The firm has adjusted its revenue and earnings projections to account for this shift, estimating that Qualcomm could see a $4 billion revenue decline and a $1.50 drop in earnings per share between 2024 and 2026 as a result of losing Apple's business.

While Qualcomm has been working to diversify its portfolio, focusing on areas like AI handsets and the Internet of Things (IoT), Wolfe Research remains skeptical about the potential for these segments to offset the anticipated loss. The analysts suggest that these new ventures may prove to be a tougher sell to investors, especially in light of the looming challenges.

Wolfe Research concludes that, despite Qualcomm’s relatively attractive valuation at 15 times 2026 EPS, the loss of revenue from Apple and the uncertain prospects for future growth make it difficult to maintain a positive outlook on the stock.

Qualcomm's Financial Highlights and Future Prospects

  • Qualcomm (NASDAQ:QCOM) reported an 11% year-over-year increase in quarterly revenue to $9.4 billion, with adjusted earnings up 25% to $2.33 per share.
  • The company projects earnings of $2.55 per share on revenue of $9.9 billion for the current quarter, surpassing analysts' expectations.
  • Qualcomm is well-positioned to capitalize on the rapidly growing market for AI-enabled smartphones, with revenue growth expected to reach double digits by fiscal 2025.

Qualcomm (NASDAQ:QCOM), a leading semiconductor and telecommunications equipment company, recently reported financial results that exceeded Wall Street's expectations. The company's quarterly revenue saw an 11% year-over-year increase to $9.4 billion, and adjusted earnings jumped 25% to $2.33 per share. These results surpassed analysts' forecasts, which had pegged earnings at $2.25 per share on revenue of $9.2 billion. Qualcomm's optimistic guidance for the current quarter further underscores its strong performance, projecting earnings of $2.55 per share on revenue of $9.9 billion, which is above analysts' expectations.

The company's financial health is further evidenced by its operational cash flow. In the recent quarter, Qualcomm reported a net cash provided by operating activities of $3.05 billion. Despite a net cash outflow of $1.04 billion for investing activities and $3.45 billion for financing activities, the company managed to achieve a free cash flow of $2.67 billion. This robust cash flow performance, coupled with capital expenditures of $387 million and debt repayments totaling $914 million, demonstrates Qualcomm's strong financial management and its ability to generate significant cash from its operations.

However, despite these strong financial results and a positive outlook, Qualcomm's stock experienced a more than 5% drop following the earnings announcement. This decline was partly attributed to CEO Cristiano Amon's cautious stance on the smartphone market's recovery, projecting a "kind of flattish to low single digits in growth." Yet, Amon also emphasized the rapid growth of premium, AI-enabled smartphones, which are expected to drive demand for high-end devices. According to Counterpoint Research, shipments of generative-AI-enabled smartphones are forecasted to quadruple between 2024 and 2027, eventually making up 43% of global smartphone shipments by 2027, up from 11% this year.

This shift towards AI-enabled smartphones presents a significant opportunity for Qualcomm. The company is well-positioned to capitalize on this trend, which could lead to substantial growth in both revenue and earnings over the next few years. Qualcomm is projected to end the current fiscal year with $38.6 billion in revenue, marking an 8% increase from the previous year. With the AI smartphone market expanding, Qualcomm's revenue growth is expected to reach double digits by fiscal 2025, potentially surpassing 10%. This growth trajectory, coupled with the company's strong cash flow and financial management, suggests that Qualcomm represents a valuable investment opportunity, especially when considering its current valuation compared to the broader market.

Qualcomm Posts Strong Q3 Earnings and Optimistic Guidance

Qualcomm (NASDAQ:QCOM) announced third-quarter results that surpassed analyst predictions and issued an upbeat forecast for the fourth quarter.

For the third quarter, Qualcomm reported earnings per share (EPS) of $2.33, which exceeded the Street estimate by $0.08. Revenue also came in stronger than expected at $9.39 billion, surpassing the projected $9.21 billion.

The market reacted positively not only to the earnings beat but also to Qualcomm's optimistic outlook for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2024. The company forecasted an EPS range of $2.45 to $2.65, with the midpoint of $2.55 higher than the Street estimate of $2.45.

Additionally, Qualcomm projected fourth-quarter revenue between $9.5 billion and $10.3 billion, surpassing the Street estimate of $9.71 billion, signaling potential continued growth.

President and CEO Cristiano Amon attributed the strong performance to the effective execution of Qualcomm's growth strategy and the impressive performance of its QCT segment in terms of quarterly revenues and EBT margins.

Amon also highlighted the introduction of the Snapdragon X Series solutions for PCs, marking a significant step in Qualcomm's evolution towards intelligent computing.

Qualcomm Incorporated's Third-Quarter Earnings Report Highlights

  • Significant drop in net income growth by approximately 15.9% and operating income growth by roughly 20.1%.
  • Remarkable rise in free cash flow growth by approximately 23.2% and operating cash flow growth by around 20.5%.
  • Stable financial leverage position with a slight decrease in debt growth by about 0.15%.

Qualcomm Incorporated (NASDAQ:QCOM), a leading semiconductor company known for its contributions to the development of wireless technology and products, recently made headlines with its third-quarter earnings report. The company's financial performance is closely watched by investors and analysts alike, as it serves as a bellwether for the tech industry, particularly in the mobile and telecommunications sectors. Ben Bajarin, a respected figure in tech analysis, discussed these results on CNBC Television's 'Closing Bell Overtime,' shedding light on Qualcomm's market position and future prospects.

Despite facing challenges in the market, Qualcomm's shares saw an uptick following the earnings announcement. This positive market reaction can be attributed to several key financial metrics that emerged from the company's recent quarterly report. Although Qualcomm experienced a decrease in revenue growth by about 5.5% and a decline in gross profit growth by around 6%, the company managed to navigate through these headwinds, showcasing its resilience in a competitive landscape.

One of the most notable aspects of Qualcomm's financial performance was the significant drop in net income growth by approximately 15.9% and operating income growth, which decreased by roughly 20.1%. These figures might initially raise concerns among investors regarding the company's profitability and operational efficiency. However, it's important to look beyond these numbers to understand the broader financial health of Qualcomm.

On a brighter note, Qualcomm reported an increase in asset growth by about 2%, indicating a solid foundation for future investments and growth opportunities. Additionally, the company witnessed a remarkable rise in free cash flow growth by approximately 23.2% and operating cash flow growth by around 20.5%. These metrics are crucial as they reflect Qualcomm's ability to generate cash from its operations, which can be reinvested into the business or returned to shareholders. Moreover, the improvement in book value per share growth by about 6% suggests an increase in the company's intrinsic value, which is a positive sign for investors.

Despite the mixed financial results, Qualcomm's slight decrease in debt growth by about 0.15% signals a stable financial leverage position. This minimal change in debt levels indicates that the company is managing its borrowings prudently, avoiding over-leverage, which can be risky in uncertain economic times. Overall, Qualcomm's financial performance, as discussed by Ben Bajarin on CNBC Television, paints a picture of a company navigating through market challenges while laying down a solid foundation for future growth.