The Kroger Co. (KR) on Q1 2021 Results - Earnings Call Transcript
Operator: Good morning, and welcome to The Kroger Company First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rebekah Manis, Director, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Rebekah Manis: Thank you, Gary. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Kroger’s first quarter 2021 earnings call. I’m joined today by Kroger’s Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Rodney McMullen; and Chief Financial Officer, Gary Millerchip. Before we begin, I want to remind you that today’s discussions will include forward-looking statements. We want to caution you that such statements are predictions and actual events or results can differ materially. A detailed discussion of the many factors that we believe may have a material effect on our business on an ongoing basis is contained in our SEC filings. The Kroger Company assumes no obligation to update that information.
Rodney McMullen : Thank you, Rebekah, and thank you for joining us today. While the COVID-19 health crisis has not ended, this is the first quarter where we saw significant signs of recovery and the beginning of a return to what we are hopeful will be a new normal. Our quarter results demonstrate that Kroger is even better positioned today to connect with our customers than we were before the pandemic because of our relentless focus on leading with Fresh and Accelerating with Digital for our customers. I’m incredibly proud of our amazing associates who continue to be there for our customers, communities, and each other. Because of our associates’ commitment, Kroger’s first quarter identical sales without fuel grew ahead of our internal expectations. Digital sales grew triple digits since the beginning of 2019. We saw strong growth in alternative profits and significant progress with our cost savings initiatives. All of this gives us confidence to raise guidance for the year and announce a new $1 billion share buyback program. I’d like to spend the next few minutes discussing three key areas. First, how customer behavior is changing in this transition period. Second, how we are leading with Fresh and Accelerating with Digital. Finally, I will highlight how we continue to live our purpose to feed the human spirit through the associate experience and our work to vaccinate millions of Americans. Our customers are in a time of transition. During the quarter, we began to see some pre-pandemic habits resume. For example, smaller holiday gatherings are likely to fade as more than half of our shoppers believe holidays will return to normal by the 4th of July. We are also seeing customers shop more frequently as COVID restrictions ease. Importantly, we saw a continuation of several pandemic trends. This includes heightened digital engagement across demographics; expanded consumption in key fresh areas like meat, produce, and natural foods; and trading up to more premium products.
Gary Millerchip: Thanks, Rodney, and good morning, everyone. Kroger delivered strong results in the first quarter, providing a further proof point of the momentum we have created in our business model. We continue to execute our priorities of leading with Fresh and Accelerating with Digital, which led to topline sales results ahead of our internal expectations. We were disciplined in balancing investments in our associates and customers with strong cost management and achieved record growth in alternative profit streams. While year-over-year comparisons are impacted by the pandemic -- by the dramatic change in customer behavior we saw in quarter one last year due to COVID-19, looking over a two-year time horizon, our adjusted EPS of $1.19 represents a compounded annual growth rate of 28.6% versus 2019.
Rodney McMullen : Thanks, Gary. I want to again thank our amazing associates for their tireless work to serve our customers. As Gary and I noted, our customers have changed because of COVID. Our job is to be there for them. This quarter’s results are evidence that we are deepening our connection with our customers by focusing on and leading with Fresh and Accelerating with Digital. And we remain a purpose-driven company that honors and appreciates our associates and lifts up our communities. As we look forward, we are incredibly confident that we will deliver for our shareholders and all stakeholders. Now we look forward to your questions.
Operator: We will now begin the question-and-session . Our first question comes from Edward Kelly with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Ed Kelly: Hi guys. Good morning.
Rodney McMullen : Good morning.
Ed Kelly: First question for you is just on the ID. So I was wondering if you could help us at all with cadence during the quarter. Do you think -- or to what extent do you think vaccines and possibly even weather helped? What we’re seeing so far in Q2 and then as we think about the guidance, there is a decent slowdown, I guess, throughout the rest of the year, but is that just sort of reopen? So, you know your thoughts there. Thank you.
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. I’ll start out and then let Gary fill in the pieces. If you look at quarter two so far, we’re tracking a little bit better than where we were in quarter one, and we would be slightly better than the guidance that Gary talked about for the quarter. If you look at during the first quarter, early in the quarter, we were still cycling non-COVID and sales early in the quarter were especially strong. If you look at really starting in the second period and the third and fourth periods, we were cycling COVID. And if you look at the two-year stack for those periods, it was pretty consistent on a two-year stack basis, but when you look at it year-on-year, obviously, it wasn’t. If you look at the comment I made during the second quarter, quarter-to-date, obviously the trends have improved slightly on a year-on-year basis, but would be very similar on a two-year stack basis. Gary, anything you would want to add?
Gary Millerchip: I think you said it well about the current trends in the business, Rodney. As we look at trying to make sure we’re understanding our customer behavior, it's changing. We are focusing on that sales trend versus 2019, as Rodney mentioned, because cycling of the behavior last year and some of the customer activity we saw created some noise on that stack basis, but when we look at the trend in sales volume versus what we were seeing in 2019 and the growth versus ’19, it’s really been remarkably consistent when you look at after that March initial time period where there was obviously some stockpiling and panic buying by consumers last year. When you look at the 2021 versus 2019 over April, May, and June, generally the trend has been very consistent even with some of the reopening that’s been happening in the economy, which we think is some of the comments that Rodney made around families getting back together in larger groups, continuing to want to eat healthier, and so seeing some of those sort of trends that we think may be more structural and lasting because of the way consumers are looking to change the way they balance their eating habits. I think the question around guidance, again the comment I would may be make, essentially as you know, we’re only a couple of months on from when we gave and reconfirmed the original guidance. So it is really as you were suggesting, we still believe within our overall plan that we’re going to continue to execute at a high level and continue to grow our share of the food-at-home business over time. What we do think will happen is there will be some softening in food at home trends as we definitely go through the year as the market continues to reopen. And of course, I think everybody is seeing some benefit right now of government stimulus dollars in the market and it’s hard to predict how that will change over time as well. So I would say for the rest of the year with only two more months of data points, while we’ve been very pleased with our progress and are executing at a high level, and as Rodney mentioned, we’ve seen sales above where we’ve expected it to be so far this year. In terms of the macro, what do we think will happen as the year plays out, I wouldn’t say we’ve fundamentally changed our view.
Ed Kelly: Okay. And I just want to ask a follow-up on the gross margin. So, down 21 basis points versus ’19 is good actually relative to history for you guys. Pre-pandemic though, your two-year stack was down more than that. So my question is, how normal is the Q1 gross margin? And I’m sure promotions, and promotional levels right now play a role in that, and how do we think about that two-year rate as the year progresses?
Gary Millerchip: Yeah. Thanks, Ed. I think as we talked about in some of the prepared comments, we’re very much focused on how do we manage the overall business model to make sure that we’re being there for the customer. And I think what we’re most excited about, if you look at ’19, ’20 and the first quarter in ’21 is how we’re managing and balancing the business across the investments that we need to make in the customer; taking cost out of it is where it makes sense, and obviously, continuing to grow alternative profit streams. From a gross margin perspective, I think what was encouraging for us during the first quarter whether you look at it year-over-year or the two-year comparison to your point is that outside of the sales deleverage and the one-time donation that we are making on PPE equipment, really the improvements that we saw in sourcing and the acceleration in our profit funded the gross margin investments that we’re making. So, I’m not trying to suggest that that’s something that we should assume happens every quarter as we’ll continue to manage dynamically, and sometimes we’ll fund the investments through continued cost savings initiatives. But overall, we feel very good about the balance in the business and our ability to manage those levers to both deliver for our customers but also deliver sustainable growth in the future earnings.
Rodney McMullen : The only thing I would add -- I agree with Gary’s points. We talked about it in our prepared remarks, but we are seeing a continuation of people buying more premium products, and especially like on Private Selection and Simple Truth, those types of purchases normally have a higher margin. We’re also seeing tailwinds from mix changes as people continue to be more aggressive on buying fresh, all of those things. And the point that Gary made that I think is incredibly important, and as you know on Investor Day we talked about it that we would expect continued operating margin improvements once you get through recycling through COVID. We would continue to expect that because of the points that we made and Gary’s point on alternative profits as well.
Ed Kelly: Great. Thank you.
Rodney McMullen : Thanks, Ed.
Operator: Your next question is from Paul Lejuez with Citi. Please go ahead.
Paul Lejuez: Hey, thanks, guys. Can you maybe just give us an update on what you’re seeing on the inflation front? And maybe more importantly, just how you feel about your ability to pass through higher prices relative to historical periods? Thanks.
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. Thanks, Paul, for the question. And as you know, or if you look at it over the years, Kroger has been able to successfully operate in high inflationary environments and low inflationary environments. If you look at the details of inflation during the quarter, if you look in the fresh departments, inflation has continued to increase during the quarter. Part of that is driven because of -- if you look at it, a lot of supply disruptions a year ago because of COVID. So, it’s going to be hard to tell, but we would expect overall to be able to successfully operate in whatever the environment is, and we would expect to be able to pass those costs to customers as you look at things that are permanent in nature. The other thing I think it’s always important to remind each of us, including our internal team is if you look, typically, our business operates the best when inflation is about 3% to 4%, and we have a meaningful amount of fixed costs. And when inflation is at 3% to 4%, that gives you leverage on those costs, and the inflation at 3% to 4%, customers don’t overly react to that inflationary environment either. So, we view a little bit of inflation is always good in our business, and we would expect to be able to pass that through as well on things that are permanent in nature. And one of the last comment I would make is, it is the important part of having such a strong Our Brands program and our own manufacturing plants. If we have inflation that is not driven by true cost changes, what always happens is, Our Brands gain significant share at the expense of some of those national brand players as well.
Paul Lejuez: Got it. And are you saying you’re in that 3% to 4% range currently, Gary?
Rodney McMullen : Gary, do you want to…?
Gary Millerchip: Sure. Yeah, I’ll maybe just add a little bit more color. I’d say for the first quarter, as you know, we guided to the initial business plan of 1% to 2%. I would say, we were — actually in the first quarter, we’d be towards the bottom end of that range and we didn’t really see it in our first quarter trends at all. We are seeing, as I think would be consistent across the industry, some increasing cost flow starting to flow through in grocery, in particular, as Rodney mentioned, produce and meat tend to have more short-term volatility in those results, and we certainly saw some of that in Q1. So I’d say we believe we’re starting to see some of that inflation rate flow through, but I wouldn’t say we’re seeing it at that level yet in in our current model.
Paul Lejuez: Got it. Thank you, guys. Good luck.
Rodney McMullen : Thanks, Paul.
Gary Millerchip: Thank you.
Operator: The next question is from Chuck Cerankosky with Northcoast Research. Please go ahead.
Chuck Cerankosky: Good morning, everyone. Nice quarter. I’d like to ask about your prior guidance on the start-up costs at the Ocado shed. So I think it was about $100 million this year. How’s that looking at this point given the little bit of time you’ve had with these things open?
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. I’ll start out and let Gary talk about the financials. Chuck, thanks for the question. And as I mentioned in the prepared comments, initially, the customer feedback has been very good. And our focus on the initial ramp up of Groveland and Monroe is to make sure that we give the customer a great experience, great in-stock positions, great fresh experience and on-time deliveries. And all of those things are tracking along and our volume ramp is tracking consistent with expectations as well. But I do think it’s important to remind all of us that we’re very, very early in the process, but so far so good. Gary, I’ll let you talk about some of the cost pieces.
Gary Millerchip: Sure. Thanks, Rodney. Thanks for the question, Chuck. Yeah, I would say essentially consistent with Rodney’s comments, things are playing out at this point for the year where we would have expected them to be, Chuck. The good news is, building on Rodney’s comments about the early indicators on the customer-facing part of Ocado, everything we’re seeing within the technology and supply chain, teams would say that the way that we envisaged the technology and the efficiency of the model would work as we’re kind of finding so far with the operation up and running that everything would be consistent with that expectation in the model. So nothing new or different to report there. As you know, most of the costs in the first year are going to be those sort of largely fixed costs. And really, as we shared at the Investor Day, the focus for us will be is as we start to ramp up the volume, our ability to speed up that ramp over time is really what will be critical to us delivering on the overall financial returns that we’re expecting from Ocado and also our opportunity to potentially beat those returns. So as you’ll recall, to recap, we would expect in year one for that to be a fairly meaningful investment of that fixed overhead is put in place for an Ocado facility. And then as the volume ramps up, by year two, we’re getting to that breakeven point. And then by year three, we’re starting to improve the profitability with the goal of getting to, at least, parity with stores. So a long way to go on that journey. But I would say we’re not seeing anything right now that would be different or inconsistent with what we were expecting to see. But as Rodney said, very early day and a lot of work to do.
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. And the feedback from Ocado is the ramp is pretty consistent with what they would expect. If you look at the Ocado retail success in the UK, it continues to be extremely strong as well.
Chuck Cerankosky: After the experience you’ve had thus far in Florida and the two spokes added, you’re thinking about any other markets where Kroger doesn’t have stores where you put in an Ocado facility at this time?
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. We’re not at a position of announcing any incremental sheds at this point. But if you look at some of the ones that we’ve announced, those sheds will give us the ability to go into new markets as well. If you look at the one in DC, part of that will cover existing areas, geographies. Some of that will cover geographies that are new to us as well.
Chuck Cerankosky: Thanks very much. Best of luck for the rest of this year.
Rodney McMullen : Thanks, Chuck.
Gary Millerchip: Thanks, Chuck.
Operator: The next question is from Karen Short with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Karen Short: Hi. Thanks very much. A couple of questions I have on -- so back to the comp cadence generally. So on the two-year stack, obviously, we know what it was in 1Q and we know what you’ve guided to for the rest of the year. I guess, I’m asking for a little more color on why there would be such a slowdown in the two year stack to the tune of 600 basis points for the rest of the year? And then I had another question on cost inflation versus retail inflation as it related to gross margin.
Gary Millerchip: Thanks for the question, Karen. Yeah, so I think just to maybe recap on how the year played out last year, and then to your point, how we kind of see the guidance for this year. As you may recall, so last year, we started the year in Q1 with 19% IDs and then I think it was 14.6% in Q2. Q3 and Q4 range anywhere between 10.5% and just south of 11%. So we did see a 9% deceleration in sales last year. So we’re cycling obviously that into this year. So even with improvement in our ID sales growth expectations, as we go through the year, as I mentioned in my prepared comments, we are expecting to go from the 4.1% in Q1. In Q2, we sort of think we’ll be in the range of a new guidance of negative 2.5% to 4%. And then in Q3 and Q4, the sort of the top end of that range or maybe slightly better than that range based on what we’re seeing today. So I think a lot of our expectations are really based on our original guidance for the year that while we’re really pleased with the execution that we’ve had across the business, that we’ve continued to see if you look at our results today versus where they were in 2019 that we still have more share than we did two years ago. So our expectation of ourselves is to continue that. But we do ultimately expect there to be some deceleration in that two year stack as customers start to return to what we think will be the new normal. I would say that even with those numbers, of course, you’re still getting to when you think about the end of the year, if you’re in that. So I’ll just take the example of the bottom end of our range, you’re still going to be at that sort of 9% two year growth in terms of trends across 2019 and ’21. So significantly ahead of what our long-term model would typically have been and certainly would put us well ahead of where we would have expected to be pre-COVID when we talked about our TSR expectations.
Karen Short: Right. No, I mean, obviously, the run rate on a two year stack basis is significantly higher than it was pre-pandemic, but okay, that’s helpful. And then on inflation, I’m wondering if you could give a little color on actual cost inflation versus retail inflation? And then within that, obviously, we saw what you called out in terms of the components of the gross margin in this quarter. But I’m wondering if you could actually give a little color on what gross margins are on a -- like a core basis, so four-wall gross margin. So excluding the alternative revenue streams, because, obviously, we don’t really have enough information to really back into what the contribution was from alternative revenue as it relates to the core gross margin.
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. Thanks for the question. If you look at cost inflation and retail inflation, on the fresh departments, cost inflation would have been slightly higher than retail inflation. In the center store categories, it would be the other way around in terms of historical basis. In terms of looking at gross margin, we think it’s incredibly important to look at the total business. And when you look at the overall retail model that we’ve developed, alternative profit is driven by the traffic that we have both online and physical and stores. So we think it’s an important part of the overall business model, and it’s really hard to separate what is -- what one piece of a margin is being driven by something else. And as you know, retail media is the fastest growing media channel, and the margins on that are significantly better than traditional supermarkets. And we continue to grow in that space because of the great work that our Kroger Precision Marketing has done over the last three years and the team that we’ve built. So for us, retail media is a core part of the business. If you look at the overall margins, it’s a core part of the business. And we the way we manage our business is looking at operating margins in total and how are those trending and how are we balancing cost reductions and margin improvements.
Karen Short: Okay, great. Thank you.
Rodney McMullen : Thanks, Karen.
Gary Millerchip: Thanks, Karen.
Operator: The next question is from Rupesh Parikh with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Erica Eiler: Good morning. This is actually Erica Eiler on for Rupesh. Thanks for taking our questions.
Rodney McMullen : Good morning.
Erica Eiler: So I wanted to touch on SG&A here. Per our math in -- versus 2019, expenses were up about 10%. So I was just curious if there was anything you can share directionally for the balance of the year on the expense front or if maybe you could just walk us through some of the puts and takes as you currently see them on the SG&A side?
Gary Millerchip: Sure. Yeah, thanks for the question. Really there’s a -- as you can imagine, there’s a lot of moving parts in OG&A just because of what we’re cycling from 2020 and as all that unravels. And it’s actually one of the reasons why we felt it was important to share a comparison versus 2019 because I think in some ways that gives you a sense of the momentum that we’re creating overall and our ability to manage costs and continue to improve our efficiency in the model. If I kind of maybe talk you through some of the major sort of puts and takes, if you like, in the model, we do overall expect OG&A to be a tailwind for the year, and that’s consistent with the original guidance that we shared. The main drivers that will kind of support that tailwind would be as we start to cycle the COVID cost, as we did in Q1, we obviously continue to be very disciplined in making sure we’re creating a safe environment for our associates and our customers. But we have ensured that we continue to be more efficient in identifying how we can improve our processes and our cost model to minimize those costs without compromising on safety and ensuring that we’re creating the right environment in the store and online. So there will be some benefit that continues to flow through. We would estimate that COVID costs were probably just shy of $150 million in this quarter. And in future quarters, they’ll probably be less than $100 million a quarter as we look forward and gradually declining over time. In addition to those COVID costs that we’re cycling, we do expect, as you know, digital profitability continues to improve, and a lot of that improvement is in the cost to serve and cost to fill an order. And so that is something that we continue to focus on that will help our overall OG&A model as we get more efficient in digital. There’s a sort of a practical cost saving too when you think about last year was a very strong year for the business across our key incentive metrics around operating profit growth and sales growth. This year, we would expect incentive costs to be more normalized. So it looks more like a normal year, which creates a tailwind in our cost structure as well. And then I think on the headwind side of things what would offset those savings would be our continued investment in the average value rates for our associates. As Rodney mentioned in the prepared remarks, we are committed to continuing to invest in our associates to make sure that we continue to be competitive, but also recognize the value our associates play as a critical role and obviously delivering for our customers. And then secondly, of course, the sales deleverage will have a negative impact on costs as well. So net-net, we still expect that OG&A to be a tailwind as we head through the year, but there will be a lot of puts and takes in the model.
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. And we mentioned it earlier, but we would expect operating margins to be higher in 2021 than what they were in 2019 when you look at everything just put together as well. And Gary mentioned it, but we expect this will be the fourth consecutive year where we’ve taken over $1 billion of costs out of operating the business. Some of that shows up in growth, some of that shows up in operating costs.
Erica Eiler: Okay. That’s really helpful color. And then my follow-up is just, as the U.S. has continued to reopen here in recent months, I mean, has anything surprised you thus far in terms of what you’re seeing from a category channel, geographic consumer behavior perspective? I know you said you’re continuing to see nice trade-up to premium items. And then just from a traffic basket perspective, has anything changed as things continue to reopen here? And are you expecting to fully recover traffic later this year?
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. To me, it’s a great question. And I wouldn’t necessarily say that it was surprising, but it’s good to see, and it’s some of the factors you just mentioned, but people still continue to eat at home more than pre-COVID. They still continue to cook more than pre-COVID. And they’re buying more premium products than pre-COVID. Those things were things that I wouldn’t say were surprises, but it was -- it’s good to see versus our research, our customers telling us they plan to. So it’s actually happening as what customers told us they would do versus being a surprise versus what we expected. In terms of traffic and changes there, very consistent. I would say the biggest surprise so far has been continuing to find associates to hire. And last year, we — last week, excuse me, last week, we did a hybrid hiring event. And we were very pleased with the number of people we were able to hire from that hybrid hiring event. But we continue to have job openings pretty much across all areas of the company. And that’s an area that I would say the number of openings we have is more than what we would have expected.
Erica Eiler: Okay, great. Thank you so much.
Rodney McMullen : Thank you.
Operator: The next question is from Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Michael Kessler: Hey, guys. This is actually Michael Kessler on for Simeon. Thanks for taking our questions.
Rodney McMullen : Good morning.
Michael Kessler: First, I wanted to ask about market share, what you guys are seeing, what you saw through the quarter. You took a lot of share last year. So just kind of curious how that evolved through Q1 as you start lapping those share gains? And I guess, are they sticking? Are they giving a little back, but still trending well above pre-COVID? Any thoughts on kind of how you’re seeing it in your markets?
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. If you look at on a two year basis, it’s been very consistent on how the market share gains have stayed. If you look at the fresh department's market share even year-on-year has stayed even stronger than we were hoping, but it’s obviously great to see. But everything that we’re looking at, we really are focusing on the two year stack and what kind of progress we’re making there. And that is great to see on the market share that we’ve been able to keep, and it’s been pretty consistent. I don’t know, Gary, any additional color you’d want to add?
Gary Millerchip: Well, I think you said it well, Rodney. Part of the challenge in Q1, and particularly in the quarter, it’s just that volatility and what was happening almost week-by-week, if you remember back to how customers were shopping and some of the supply chain issues. So I think to Rodney’s point, our focus -- and one of the reasons I should probably say we deliberately sort of waited until later in the year to talk about market share last year was we felt like it was hard to read during that time. And so as Rodney said, the focus really is on how do we make sure, as we committed, we would come out stronger through COVID overall and looking over that two year time period. I think what we’re seeing so far, we feel good about the momentum and why we’ve also increased the guidance for the rest of the year.
Michael Kessler: Great. And my follow-up on digital sales, the two year stack was still very strong. It did decelerate a little bit versus Q4. And so I guess, your expectations for the rest of the year, is this the kind of level on a two year stack basis that you’re expecting for the kind of the rest of the year? And also, as it relates to your bigger picture view of digital sales doubling over the next several years, is that still intact? Has anything changed as far as your outlook given what you saw in Q1?
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. I’ll start out with the broader question and then let Gary fill in on some of the specifics. But if you look at the commitment on doubling the business digitally and the continued improvement in profitability, we would expect -- we continue to expect those broader trends to hold in place. Everything that we can see, that customers continue to like to shop online. The thing that I think is very important is that very few of our customers actually only shop online, and most shoppers shop online and in our stores. And when they shop, both our retention rate is incredibly high and our ability to gain share within that household is very high as well. And those are the major trends that we would expect to continue, and those are the trends that we believe that will drive our ability to double our online business along with expanding with the sheds and other pieces. In terms of, if you look at within the year, Gary, I’ll let you talk through that.
Gary Millerchip: Sure. Thanks, Rodney. Yeah, the way we think about it is very much that we believe that COVID has been a reset, if you like, for digital. So we probably pulled forward demand by anywhere between three and four years based on the way that customers already engaged in digital over the last 12 months. So I think the way you described is how we certainly think about it as looking at that two year view across 2020 and 2021 is the right way to think about it, because after such growth, I think there is going to be something of a, if you like, a normalization year this year. And from there, of course, we’re building to the commitment of doubling the business over the next few years. So we mentioned it I think in the Investor Day, we didn’t really necessarily think about it as a linear journey if you think about 2021, 2022 and 2023. So we do expect, I’m still very focused on that plan that we shared at our Investor Day a few months ago. And we still believe that’s the journey that we’re on and what we’re committing to achieving over the next few years. But I do think this year and last year will be more of a two year view in the similar way we’ve looked at overall ID sales as this kind of a normalization this year following that drive of growth in 2020, and we’ll continue to build from there as we head toward that doubling the business by 2023.
Michael Kessler: Thank you very much.
Rodney McMullen : Thanks.
Operator: The next question is from Michael Lasser with UBS. Please go ahead.
Michael Lasser: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Rodney, you mentioned that you had previously anticipated 1% to 2% inflation. The business operates best when you have 3% to 4% inflation. Is that what you’re now expecting for the year or can you clarify what you are now embedding into your guidance for the year with respect to inflation?
Rodney McMullen : I don’t think -- if you look at overall, we’re really not changing our inflation expectations for the year and we’re still managing the business with a 1% to 2% overall. There are still so many moving parts that for us to fundamentally change our estimates, we don’t see anything that’s hugely different than what we were expecting earlier in the year. Now if inflation ends up tracking into that 3% to 4% range, we won’t complain.
Michael Lasser: Got it. My second question is on two pieces that you had mentioned previously. You mentioned you’re getting a sourcing benefit which helped the gross margin and a 33% increase in digital advertising or advertising revenue for digital transaction, suggesting that you’re able to harvest more spending per each one of your vendors. So are you getting any pushback from the vendor community as you look to gain more support? How were you able to do this? And do you think that this is a trajectory that is sustainable from here?
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. I’ll talk broader about the retail media and then let Gary talk about the sourcing benefits since sourcing reports up through Gary’s organization. If you look at retail media, and I mentioned it briefly a few minutes ago, it is the fastest growing media channel. And we do not force our CPGs to advertise with us versus somewhere else. And we want to be held accountable for delivering results the same way anyone else would be. And we shared it at our Investor Day, but independently, CPGs and others rate our retail media incredibly strong and better than pretty much anybody in the market in terms of the ability to target customers, to getting their ROI on that retail spend and being able to adjust and eliminate wasted money because we are totally transparent with our CPG partners in terms of how they invest their media money. And for us, we think that’s incredibly important because we want to make sure we’ve earned the right and earned the right in terms of gaining share, when you look at the amount of money that’s spent in digital is well north of $100 billion. And getting our fair share of that is important, and it’s important for the business model as well. On sourcing benefit, Gary, I’ll let you go into the detail there.
Gary Millerchip: Yeah. Thanks for the question, Michael. I think part of the answer would be bridging back to our track record as well over the last few years. We’ve seen significant savings from sourcing over 2019, 2020, and of course 2021 as part of $1 billion of savings. And at the same time, as Rodney mentioned, we’ve been growing ultimately profits, with media being the fastest growing part of that significantly as well over, incrementally over $100 million again over 2019, ’20 and 2021 compounding on top of the other. So we feel very good about our ability to drive those parts of that model. And I think our track record would show that we’ve been able to maintain that momentum. I think we do think of them as very different pools of money as well though, as Rodney mentioned. So on sourcing it’s not just about squeezing an extra penny out by negotiating. It’s about being creative about sourcing. It’s about our own brand of products as well and using those and thinking about design of the product, and looking at how we manage future cost inflation and hedging of or getting ahead of sort of changes in cost structure. So we think about sourcing in a very strategic level and look at it across many different levels to make sure that we’re continuing to get better at how we operate most efficiently. And we would still see significant runway to keep getting better on those fronts and being able to support our model overall by improved sourcing benefits. And at the same time, as Rodney mentioned on the media side of the business, really all of that revenue is coming from different pools of opportunity where many of our CPG partners are spending with media companies to be able to drive their overall sales growth through media marketing and digital channels that are available and e-commerce platforms. And we believe that the Kroger ecosystem offers some significant advantages and can be redeploying some of those dollars for a CPG partner to help them get either a higher return on what they spending or spend less dollars to get the same return because we can offer a more efficient model for them.
Michael Lasser: Thank you very much.
Rodney McMullen : Thanks, Michael.
Operator: The next question is from Ken Goldman with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Ken Goldman: Hey, thank you. First question. You talked about being able to pass along inflation as it increases. Is there any reason to think that this will mostly -- will it be any different in terms of how you think about that, meaning list prices versus reduced promotions versus any other sort of factors? Just trying to get a sense of it because we’re in a sort of a still a COVID world, whether your pricing strategies would be similar to what you might do in a normal environment or dissimilar?
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. Ken, your question is a good one. We would -- so far, we don’t see anything different. We do see bigger pack sizes. So the customer is able to offset some of the inflation by buying a more bigger pack, which is more efficient on a per unit usage. But nothing that we would say so far anything that we’ve seen that would be significantly different than what we’ve seen before.
Ken Goldman: Okay. Thank you for that. And then we’re still seeing store brands, at least what we’re seeing in Nielsen data, lose quite a bit of share in the food at the supermarket channel. With the understanding, obviously, it remains a critical part of your strategy, I’m just curious, are your own brands performing as you would have expected year-to-date? And you expect that to start getting better as stimulus benefits maybe diminish a little bit?
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. If you look at Our Brands, and I always look at it over a five or 10 or 20-year period, Our Brands have always gained share. You may have one or two years within that 20-year period where that hasn’t been the case. But overall, Our Brands continues to gain share. Last year because we had our own manufacturing plants and we were able to ramp up production and it was dedicated to us, we were able to significantly gain share last year just because we had product and many of our CPG partners did not. The other thing that the privates -- I mentioned a minute ago, but our Private Selection product and our Simple Truth brands continue to really have strong, strong quarters year-on-year and actually had, for the most part, positive sales growth even cycling last year. And we think it really is part of that premiumization of product and our team does a great job of identifying new opportunities to make something fun.
Ken Goldman: Great. Thanks so much.
Gary Millerchip: Ken, I’ll tell a few stories on Our Brands, as Rodney mentioned, because Simple Truth and Private Selection continue to outperform our overall sales growth. And to your point, I think the Kroger brand offers a great opportunity as a great value for the customer as things potentially or stimulus funding starts to become a little bit less significant in the future. So we think that sets us up well for the future as well.
Rodney McMullen : Thanks, Ken.
Ken Goldman: Thanks so much.
Operator: Our last question comes from John Heinbockel with Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead.
John Heinbockel: So two things, Rodney. Starting with forward buy, right, which we haven’t talked about in maybe a decade. What’s the opportunity there? And is that just naturally going to be limited by vendor availability of product?
Rodney McMullen : Yeah, you’re right. It’s been a long time since we’ve talked about forward buy. If you look at some areas on pharmaceuticals and things, you continue to -- forward buy is something that’s been done throughout. It’s just not as big as other things. If you end up in an environment where there was heavier inflation, you would expect to be doing more forward buying. But if inflation is more normal, we would not. The other thing that drove a lot of forward buy in the past is the CPGs had excess capacity and they were trying to fill up the production of that excess capacity. And as of right now, we don’t see that. But it’s a great question and it something we’ll continue to look for the opportunity. We did do a lot of forward buy last year during COVID. But it wasn’t forward buy, it was just when you could find the product. We leased about 20 extra warehouses to get product to have to be able to serve customers.
John Heinbockel: And then secondly, how many more years do you think the billion dollar cost saves, is that a still a long runway? I assume you think your comp will be higher post-COVID, right, than it was pre -- than the pre-algo. And does that mean that the model going forward is significant expense leverage, gross being down even with alternative profit and that’s what drives the EBIT margin improvement?
Rodney McMullen : Yeah. Your last part of the question, alternative profit, would be a key part of driving margin. I can tell you on the cost saves, we’ve been able to find more cost saves than I would have ever guessed when we started the journey. We’re just now starting to work on things for 2022 on cost saves. Some of the things that are being put in place are cost savings for the balance of ’21 will flow through to next year. I don’t know the degree of what kind of cost saves we’ll have, but I would certainly expect that we’ll find a meaningful cost saves through process changes and work changes and things like that.
Gary Millerchip: And John, I think it’s suddenly become a core competence of Rodney’s plan. I think when we started the journey a few years ago, I’m not sure we’d have at the sense of what the opportunity was to continue to find ways to be more efficient and take cost and innovate in this space. And we still look at it, as Rodney mentioned, whether it’s continuing to look at how we can use technology. I still think there are a number of areas in our business where we have the opportunity to leverage more technology even as you think about learnings for the last 12 months of COVID and where are there ways to operate our initiative cost more efficiently. I think we continue to identify new opportunities, and we still believe that as we’ve -- as it’s become a core competence in the company to finding those areas to improve efficiency, we’d expect that to offer opportunities into the future for sure.
John Heinbockel: Thank you.
Rodney McMullen : Thanks, John, for the question. Before we finish today, I’d like to share a few final comments directed to our associates who are listening in. Opportunity, collaboration and innovation are the core of who we are. The opportunity to be your authentic self can be celebrated for it. To dream big, innovate and drive change. To demonstrate care, empathy and compassion for the people around you and the world in which we live. The opportunity to be part of something special and work side by side with other people who are united by our purpose. I would also like to encourage all of our associates to get COVID-19 vaccination. You have the opportunity to enter our community immunity giveaway in addition to the $100 incentive that you will receive when you complete the recommended doses of the vaccines. From our first hybrid hiring event that I mentioned earlier to drone grocery delivery, expanding Kroger delivery, accelerating partnerships with fresh suppliers and supporting small businesses, striving for community immunity and welcoming innovators to join us in our fight to end hunger. These are just a few of the many examples of how our teams collaborate to develop new and innovative ways to grow our business, help our customers, help our communities and create job opportunities. Thank you for all you do each day to be there for our customers, communities and each other. And that concludes today’s call.
Operator: The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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Kroger Co. (NYSE:KR) Financial Overview and Merger Update
- Kroger reported earnings per share (EPS) of $0.98, aligning with estimates, but revenue of $33.63 billion fell short of expectations.
- The proposed merger with Albertsons (ACI) faces legal challenges from the FTC, impacting Kroger's future strategy and market position.
- Kroger's financial health is solid with a P/E ratio of 15.70, a current ratio of 1.54, and a debt-to-equity ratio of 2.31.
Kroger Co. (NYSE:KR) is a major player in the retail industry, operating numerous grocery stores across the United States. The company is known for its wide range of products, including fresh food, groceries, and household items. Kroger competes with other large retailers like Walmart and Target, striving to maintain its market share through strategic initiatives and customer-focused services.
On December 5, 2024, Kroger reported earnings per share (EPS) of $0.98, aligning with the estimated EPS. However, the company's revenue of $33.63 billion fell short of the expected $34.19 billion. This revenue miss reflects a broader trend, as highlighted by the company's third-quarter results, where revenue also missed Wall Street expectations, coming in at $33.63 billion against an anticipated $34.22 billion.
A significant factor influencing Kroger's future is its proposed merger with Albertsons (ACI). This merger is crucial for Kroger's strategy and market position. However, the merger faces a legal challenge from the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), which could impact its approval. The outcome of this merger is pivotal, as it could reshape Kroger's competitive landscape and growth trajectory.
Despite the revenue shortfall, Kroger's adjusted EPS of $0.98 slightly exceeded estimates by a penny after excluding one-time charges related to the merger. This indicates that the company is managing its core operations effectively, even amidst challenges. Interim CFO Todd Foley noted positive customer trends, which are expected to boost sales, although CEO Rodney McMullen expressed concerns about the uncertain macroeconomic environment.
Kroger's financial metrics provide insight into its market valuation and financial health. With a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 15.70, the market values its earnings moderately. The company's price-to-sales ratio of 0.29 and enterprise value to sales ratio of 0.49 suggest a reasonable valuation relative to sales. Additionally, Kroger's current ratio of 1.54 indicates a solid liquidity position, while a debt-to-equity ratio of 2.31 highlights its financial leverage.
Kroger Co. (NYSE: KR) Stock Analysis: A Look into Analysts' Optimism
- Average price target for Kroger has increased to $73 from $63 three months ago, indicating a positive shift in analysts' expectations.
- Jefferies upgraded Kroger to a Buy rating, with a potential for double-digit earnings growth, especially if the Albertsons deal closes.
- Kroger's strategic financial maneuvers, such as retaining $6 billion of debt for potential share buybacks, could support its stock regardless of the Albertsons deal outcome.
The Kroger Co. (NYSE: KR) is a major player in the retail industry, operating a chain of supermarkets across the United States. Known for its wide range of grocery products and services, Kroger competes with other retail giants like Walmart and Albertsons. Recently, analysts have shown increased optimism about Kroger's stock, as reflected in the evolving consensus price targets.
Last month, the average price target for Kroger was $73, indicating a positive shift in analysts' expectations. This optimism may be linked to Kroger's strong track record of surpassing earnings expectations, as highlighted by BMO Capital analyst Kelly Bania, who set a price target of $57. Despite this lower target, the overall sentiment remains bullish, with Jefferies upgrading Kroger to a Buy rating and raising the target to $73.
Three months ago, the average price target was $63, showing a significant increase in analysts' expectations over the past quarter. This upward trend aligns with Jefferies' analysis, which suggests that Kroger could achieve double-digit earnings growth if the Albertsons deal closes. Even if the deal doesn't go through, Kroger's strategic financial maneuvers, such as retaining $6 billion of debt for potential share buybacks, could still support its stock.
A year ago, the average price target was $65.33, indicating a steady upward trend in analysts' confidence in Kroger's growth potential. This confidence is further supported by Kroger's improving foot traffic and a more profitable fuel business, as noted by Jefferies. These factors contribute to the positive outlook on Kroger's future performance, despite the stock's recent 1.47% decrease.
Investors should keep an eye on Kroger's upcoming earnings report, as it could provide further insights into the company's financial health and strategic direction. The report is part of a significant week for the market, with other major companies like Salesforce and Dollar Tree also releasing their earnings. Additionally, the release of November jobs data could impact market movements, making it a crucial time for investors to stay informed.
Kroger Surpasses Q2 Earnings Expectations, Shares Gain 6%
Kroger (NYSE:KR) reported strong second-quarter earnings, surpassing expectations and leading the grocery giant to raise the lower end of its full-year sales outlook. Following the announcement, the company’s stock surged over 6% intra-day today.
For the quarter, Kroger delivered adjusted earnings per share of $0.93, beating analysts' predictions of $0.91. Although revenue came in slightly below the anticipated $34.08 billion at $33.91 billion, it marked a 1.3% increase year-over-year when excluding fuel sales.
Kroger's identical sales without fuel rose 1.2% compared to the same quarter last year, fueled by an uptick in digital sales and customer traffic. The company reported an 11% boost in digital sales and a 14% increase in the number of e-commerce households.
In light of its performance, Kroger raised the lower end of its full-year identical sales guidance (excluding fuel) to a range of 0.75% to 1.75%. The company also reaffirmed its full-year 2025 earnings forecast, projecting between $4.30 and $4.50 per share, aligning with the Street estimate of $4.43 per share.
Kroger Co. (NYSE:KR) Quarterly Earnings Preview Amid Legal and Merger Challenges
- Analysts predict a 5.2% decrease in EPS to $0.91 and a 0.7% increase in revenue to $34.07 billion for Kroger Co. [NYSE:KR].
- The stability in EPS forecasts despite legal and regulatory challenges indicates confidence in Kroger's resilience.
- Kroger's financial metrics, including a P/E ratio of 17.44 and a P/S ratio of 0.25, suggest it is an attractive investment despite current hurdles.
Kroger Co. (NYSE:KR), a leading grocery chain in the United States, is on the cusp of revealing its quarterly earnings before the market opens on Thursday, September 12, 2024. Analysts from Wall Street have pegged the earnings per share (EPS) at $0.91, with revenue expectations hovering around $34.07 billion for the quarter. This report is particularly significant as it comes amidst Kroger's ongoing legal battles and a proposed merger with Albertsons, which has been a subject of regulatory scrutiny.
According to Zacks Equity Research, the anticipated earnings of $0.91 per share represent a 5.2% decrease from the same period last year, while the expected revenue of approximately $34.09 billion marks a modest 0.7% year-over-year increase. These projections have remained stable over the last 30 days, indicating a consensus among analysts regarding Kroger's financial performance. This stability in EPS forecasts, despite the backdrop of legal and regulatory challenges, suggests a level of confidence in Kroger's ability to navigate its current hurdles.
Kroger's financial health and market performance are under the microscope, especially considering the broader implications of its proposed $24.6 billion merger with Albertsons. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has raised concerns that the merger could lead to reduced competition and higher prices in the grocery sector. Despite these challenges, Kroger's slight revenue increase from $33.85 billion in the same quarter of the previous year to an expected $34.04 billion demonstrates resilience. This is noteworthy, especially after a period marked by a net loss due to a $1.4 billion charge related to an opioid settlement.
The company's financial metrics provide further insight into its valuation and market position. With a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of approximately 17.44, Kroger is seen by investors as a company worth investing in, despite the earnings decrease. The price-to-sales (P/S) ratio of about 0.25 and an enterprise value to sales (EV/Sales) ratio of roughly 0.36 indicate that the stock is trading at a relatively low value compared to its sales, which could attract investors looking for undervalued stocks. Additionally, the debt-to-equity (D/E) ratio of approximately 0.89 and a current ratio of about 0.86 highlight the company's financial leverage and liquidity challenges, respectively.
As Kroger prepares to release its quarterly earnings, the company's performance will not only reflect its operational success but also its strategic positioning amid regulatory scrutiny and competitive pressures. The outcome of this earnings report could influence investor sentiment and shape the narrative around Kroger's proposed merger with Albertsons, making it a pivotal moment for the company and its stakeholders.
Kroger Shares Drop 3% Despite Better Than Expected Q1 Results
Kroger (NYSE:KR) shares dropped more than 3% intra-day today despite the grocery chain reporting Q1 earnings and revenue that surpassed analyst expectations.
The company posted EPS of $1.43, beating the Street estimate of $1.34. Revenue for the quarter also exceeded forecasts, coming in at $45.27 billion compared to the anticipated $44.93 billion.
Kroger's first-quarter performance was characterized by a modest 0.5% increase in identical sales, excluding fuel, and a total sales increase of 0.6% compared to the same period last year, also excluding fuel.
The company saw more than 8% growth in digital sales, with delivery and pickup services experiencing double-digit growth, demonstrating the success of its market strategy.
Despite a challenging economic environment, Kroger's focus on providing value and personalized promotions resonated with customers. This approach resulted in an increase in total households, loyal households, and customer visits.
The company's CEO attributed the strong results to long-term investments in diversifying Kroger's business model, which have enabled effective management of economic cycles.
Looking forward, Kroger reaffirmed its full-year 2024 guidance. The company projects identical sales, excluding fuel, to grow between 0.25% and 1.75%. Additionally, it expects an adjusted EPS between $4.30 and $4.50, compared to the Street estimate of $4.43.
Kroger's Q3 Earnings Review
Kroger (NYSE:KR) revised its sales growth forecast, citing current economic pressures and a decrease in food-at-home inflation as the holiday season approaches.
The company now predicts that its identical sales excluding fuel will increase by 0.6% to 1.0%. This is a reduction from its previous forecast of a 1.0% to 2.0% rise. Rodney McMullen, Kroger's CEO, stated that the company plans to continue offering lower prices and personalized promotions to address the tightening of consumer spending habits.
Despite these challenging conditions, Kroger has adjusted its full-year net earnings guidance upwards, setting the lower limit of the range at $4.50 to $4.60.
The company also reported an adjusted per-share income of $0.95 for the third quarter, exceeding expectations. This success was largely attributed to strong performance in its gas stations business.
Kroger's Q3 Earnings Review
Kroger (NYSE:KR) revised its sales growth forecast, citing current economic pressures and a decrease in food-at-home inflation as the holiday season approaches.
The company now predicts that its identical sales excluding fuel will increase by 0.6% to 1.0%. This is a reduction from its previous forecast of a 1.0% to 2.0% rise. Rodney McMullen, Kroger's CEO, stated that the company plans to continue offering lower prices and personalized promotions to address the tightening of consumer spending habits.
Despite these challenging conditions, Kroger has adjusted its full-year net earnings guidance upwards, setting the lower limit of the range at $4.50 to $4.60.
The company also reported an adjusted per-share income of $0.95 for the third quarter, exceeding expectations. This success was largely attributed to strong performance in its gas stations business.