General Mills, Inc. (GIS) on Q1 2023 Results - Earnings Call Transcript
Operator: Greetings and welcome to the General Mills First Quarter Fiscal 2023 Earnings Q&A Webcast. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Wednesday, September 21, 2022. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jeff Siemon, VP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Jeff Siemon: Thank you, Kelly and good morning everyone. We appreciate you joining us today for a Q&A session on our first quarter fiscal â23 results. I hope everyone had a time to review our press release and listen to our prepared remarks and view the presentation materials, which were made available this morning on our IR website. Itâs important to note that in our Q&A session, we may make forward-looking statements that are based on our current views and assumptions. Please refer to this morningâs press release for factors that could impact forward-looking statements and for reconciliations of non-GAAP information, which maybe discussed on todayâs call. I am here with Jeff Harmening, our Chairman and CEO; Kofi Bruce, our CFO; and Jon Nudi, Group President of our North America Retail segment. Letâs go ahead and get right to the first question. Kelly, can you please get us started?
Operator: And our first question comes from Andrew Lazar with Barclays. You may proceed with your question.
Andrew Lazar: Thank you. Good morning, everybody.
Kofi Bruce: Good morning.
Jeff Harmening: Good morning, Andrew.
Andrew Lazar: Maybe to start off, I think the area that diverged from expectations the most in the quarter was certainly on gross margin, which actually expanded modestly year-over-year. I was hoping you could provide a bit more detail on sort of the drivers of this performance. And maybe more importantly, how do you see the sustainability and sequential cadence of margin performance through the remainder of the year?
Kofi Bruce: Sure, Andrew. This is Kofi. I would just note we are pleased with the start on margins for Q1. The primary driver, just as we think about kind of where we are, the HMM cost savings plus benefits from price/mix, offset inflation, deleverage and our other sort of operating costs we have taken on in this environment to show modest expansion in the quarter. I think as we look forward, we are not going to give guidance largely in recognition still of the fact that we are in a highly dynamic environment and still vulnerable to supply chain disruption. So as we think about the operating environment, there is still a high degree of volatility. The biggest variables, as you can imagine, as we think about the gross margin progression for us are going to be volume performance on the level of disruption and as we obviously would just take note of the inflationary environment, where we just noted that we are expecting modestly higher inflation for the year. So thatâs kind of the table setting.
Andrew Lazar: Okay. And then I guess second, I am curious of some of the volume declines that you are seeing just based on elasticity in, letâs say, North America retail. Do you have a sense for how much of that is due to, letâs say, the loss of promoted volume versus base or full price volume just given that you and others are not promoting as much in light of current service levels? And I guess I asked this, because it could help us get maybe an even better sense of the health of sort of the underlying business, if you will?
Jeff Harmening: Yes. Jon Nudi, do you want to take that?
Jon Nudi: Yes, good morning, Andrew. So as we look at the unit declines, the vast majority of that is due to promotional pulling back and not so much frequency, but really adjusting our price points. So in most categories, itâs up to about 75% of the unit decline is due to promotional pullback.
Andrew Lazar: Okay, very helpful. Thanks so much.
Operator: Our next question comes from David Palmer with Evercore ISI. You may proceed with your question.
David Palmer: Hi. I am trying to think of a good follow up on gross profit, because obviously that was very impressive this quarter. I am wondering how are you viewing your gross profit performance, your gross margin performance versus your plan so far, maybe you could speak to that? And I am wondering to what degree would you be teasing or have us tease out perhaps some benefits that might not repeat in the future, some things that are outsized benefits such as some of the market share gains in your higher margin categories or perhaps promotional activity that you donât feel like will be as favorable anything that you would do to caution us on gross margins?
Kofi Bruce: Yes. I think sort of broadly beyond the quality, let me get to the front part of your question. In the quarter largely the â what was sort of unexpected on gross margin was the level of volume and on the back of the elasticities that Jon just alluded to, which were lower than we expected going into the quarter and into the beginning of the fiscal year. So that resulted in less deleverage pressure. So that flowed through to gross margin. I think as a cautionary note, well, I would certainly be in the front of the line along with all our business leaders, including Jon to want the environment stabilized, I think supply chain disruption is still very, very real, categorically well above historical levels and the cost of servicing volume in this business even as we think we are doing it competitively in our North America business is just higher and will remain higher until we see that stabilization. So that probably is the first and primary cautionary note. And the second is obviously the interaction of pricing and volume and elasticities in this environment remains, still hard to read because we are in a historical period and it is hard frankly to coalescence. So those are sort of the cautionary notes and they all have pretty reasonably significant impact on gross margins. I think the last thing is, as we noted in the scripted remarks, we did flag some other headwinds that potentially will flow through to operating margin, including increased investment on the business to sustain long-term growth and the cost of the expected cost of the recall on Haagen-Dazs.
David Palmer: And if I could just squeeze in just a follow-up on your â the supply chain comment, was there improvement through the quarter such that your so-called exit rate, supply chain friction was less at the end of the quarter than it was at the beginning of the quarter that gives you hope that, that will be less going forward? And I will pass it on. Thanks.
Kofi Bruce: Yes, sure. So a fair question. As we entered the year, we expected a very modest improvement in the level of supply chain disruption. The quarter effectively played out in line with those expectations and with the expectations we set at the beginning of the year, which are we are still expecting a categorically higher level of supply chain disruption than our historical experience.
David Palmer: Thanks.
Operator: Our next question comes from Chris Growe with Stifel. You may proceed with your questions.
Chris Growe: Thank you. Good morning.
Jeff Harmening: Good morning, Chris.
Chris Growe: I just had a question if I could. And I think you have an expectation that elasticity will increase from here. I think thatâs a very prudent assumption. I am just curious if you are seeing any signs of that or any indicators that would increase that â that would indicate that elasticity is increasing or maybe some categories where you are seeing it perhaps that give you a bit of a warning sign for the business overall. It seems like itâs going pretty well across the industry. I just want to see if there is anything that we are missing here?
Jeff Harmening: Chris, this is Jeff Harmening. I mean, I donât think that â I donât think you have missed anything so far. As Kofi alluded to just a minute ago, elasticities have been more favorable to us than we had anticipated in the current environment, particularly as consumers have traded to away-from-home meeting to more at-home eating consumption. Itâs just a matter of as we look through the year, we would anticipate that elasticities would become a little bit less favorable than they are right now, but still more favorable than they would have been historically, but so far, we havenât seen really any change in elasticities, which for us was a positive for the quarter.
Chris Growe: Thatâs great. Thank you. And I know we have had a few gross margin questions. It was quite a great performance there. I just was curious maybe Kofi to you and to the phasing questions around the gross margins, do you still have price increases that are going into place that need to take place to offset the inflation? And I guess related to that, you had this increase in inflation, does that prompt you to take more pricing at retail overall? Thank you.
Kofi Bruce: No, I appreciate that. We have most â the vast majority of our pricing in the market to address or announced to address the inflation that we see, including the revised modest provision up in the inflationary guidance. And the last round being in our North America foodservice business, where we have taken some additional steps to address cost of goods as we saw more inflation in the quarter than we did price/mix. So I think we are in a place where we feel comfortable we have got this sort of bounded.
Chris Growe: Okay, great. Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from Cody Ross with UBS. You may proceed with your question.
Cody Ross: Hey, good morning. Thank you for taking our questions. I am just going to nitpick a little bit here. You noted supply chain headwinds in pet. Can we unpack that a little bit, which brands and categories are you seeing the most impact? And I am just a little bit surprised that given the pet demand that you are seeing or demand in the pet category, you were not able to deliver total sales dollars in line with the fourth quarter of last year?
Jeff Harmening: Yes. So let me take that, Kofi, and Iâll unpack it a little bit and then if you want me to unpack it even more let me know. But I would say first, I would remind everybody on the call that we grew our pet business double-digits yet again in the first quarter and then we have increased our pet sales of $1 billion over the last 4 years. And so while it may not have been the run-rate in Q4 is still growing at double-digits. So I guess that would be my first bit of context. The second I would always say is that I think itâs also important to remember that Q1 last year, our sales were really, really strong. And thatâs not only because we had capacity, but also we are working off some inventory. So we are selling not only everything we could make first quarter of last year, but we are also drawing down inventory levels, a product we had made previously. And so the comparisons are particularly difficult by the way as they are in the second quarter of this year as well. And so the comparisons are really difficult. When we look at â so when we look at our performance, I would say our supply chain improved modestly throughout the quarter in pet. Our service levels improved modestly in line with our expectations. And we actually grew share in the wet pet food category and we lost share in treats and dry and thatâs where we donât have the capacity. Just to answer your question just a little further, as a reminder, we anticipate having more capacity for treats coming online in the third quarter in January of this year and then dry is going to take another few quarters to get in line. And thatâs important to note because as we think about our second quarter in pet, we will have a lot of costs from increasing service in the business, whether itâs through external supply chain or through adding capacity on treats and warehouse space and all those things, but we wonât yet have the sales associated with it. So you can expect our second quarter pet to be a little bit challenged, but weâre highly confident that will rebound in the third and fourth quarters of this year.
Cody Ross: And thatâs 2Q Pet margin that youâre referring to, not sales? I just want to make sure I understand that.
Jeff Harmening: Yes. I would say primarily the margin piece, yes.
Cody Ross: Got it. Thatâs helpful. And then one more quick question, if I may. You noted in your prepared remarks plans to step up brand building and investments for growth. Which categories and brands do you see the most opportunity? Thank you.
Jeff Harmening: Well, I would say, over the long run, we see the most opportunity in our global brands and our local gen businesses. And so that they include businesses like pet and Haagen-Dazs and Nature Valley probably the biggest upside potential, but also some of our local gen businesses like Totinoâs where we highlighted during the quarter and we are adding capacity is now a $1 billion brand for us, Pillsbury, which is a $1 billion brand, in China. So the biggest areas of opportunity for us are going to be probably the ones that you would anticipate, which are big billion-dollar brands in global categories as well as some of our local gem brands that I just mentioned.
Operator: Our next question comes from Steve Powers with Deutsche Bank. You may proceed with your question.
Steve Powers: Hey, thanks. Good morning.
Jeff Harmening: Good morning.
Steve Powers: I want to hit on gross margin again. And then a follow-up on pet. On the gross margin, so acknowledging the uncertainty around volume progression and the supply questions, Kofi, you mentioned. We just focused on the phasing of run rate inflation relative to pricing benefits and HMM benefits. Do any of those things get tougher from 1Q before they get better? Or it feels like youâre relatively well caught up between pricing and productivity benefits relative to the rate of inflation as we run through the first quarter. So Iâm just trying to get a sense of, a, if thatâs correct and then, b, the only thing that can get worse for some reason before they get better?
Kofi Bruce: Well, I would say, broadly, we are modestly higher on inflation in the front half and modestly is probably appropriate. But I think on balance, it is still a relatively balanced year in terms of our inflation call between 14% and 15%.
Jeff Harmening: Steve, this is â Iâd just say, from a pricing standpoint, we will start to roll over more meaningful pricing in the back half of this year. And obviously, we saw a strong price/mix come through in Q1 thatâs likely similar in Q2 and then it decelerates as we start comping more meaningful step-ups last year.
Steve Powers: Yes, okay. Thatâs fair. Thank you very much. And then on the Pet question, given sort of the tightness of supply, and it looks like youâre obviously making efforts to bring supply online. But it feels like the real relief isnât going to come at this point until fiscal â24. Weâve seen competitors in the space start to buy up capacity to sort of accelerate that and get incremental capacity online sooner. And I just wanted to kind of play that off to you and just get a sense for â is that something you would consider as you think about capital allocation and M&A strategies is adding capacity through acquisition, something thatâs on the table? Or are you more inclined to just stick to building it out and working through co-packers.
Jeff Harmening: Yes. Thanks. Very fair question. Let me make sure. There is one point I want to make sure or clarify because you talked about relief coming in fiscal â24. I would say, I think about it in two pieces. And Iâm not trying to nitpick, but I think this is important. Our tree weâre lacking capacity and treat and dry. On treats, we will bring on external capacity in the third quarter of this year. So we donât need to wait until fiscal â24 for treat capacity, and we are really short on that. We bought a great business on Nudges and True Chews and so forth, we are branding at Blue Buffalo. So we are really excited about what we can do. We just need the capacity, and we donât need to go out and buy additional capacity for that because we will have what we outcome in January. One the dry, it is true that itâs going to take a while for us to get dry capacity. And if something became available, whether itâs through external supply chain or buying or another source the question, would we be willing to look at that, absolutely, weâd be willing to look at that if it would speed up our rate instead of doing it internally. We havenât had that option yet present itself, but weâre at two, we would certainly evaluate that and the speed to market of that and the cost relative to doing it ourselves.
Steve Powers: Great. Okay, thank you very much.
Operator: Our next question comes from Jason English with Goldman Sachs. You may proceed with your question.
Jason English: Hey, folks. Thanks a lot, in â and congrats on a strong start to the year. Iâm going to come back to pet, but was really a different question. So first, the capacity that youâre going to be bringing on and dry, can you give us some context in terms of like quantify how much is this is going to add for you in fiscal â24.
Jeff Siemon: Jason, we said it was â itâs going to be about upwards of $150 million of capital that weâre putting in. We talked about that on the Q4 call. But beyond that, we havenât we havenât quantified what percentage of additional capacity, but it will be a meaningful chunk to add.
Jason English: Okay, okay. And you are not alone, right, Nestle is adding, is adding, Hills is adding, as Steve mentioned, both organically and inorganically, Simmons is adding, Phelps is adding, like itâs a plenty of small manufacturers, there is a lot of capacity. It seems like itâs coming in like the wake of COVID as we start to anniversary a pull-forward pet adoption. In other words, it seems like itâs coming at a time when there is not a lot of volume growth in the industry. How does this play out? And as we think forward, whatâs the risk that gets pretty darn competitive with an overbuild of capacity and becomes a pretty promotional category.
Jeff Harmening: Yes. I understand the rationale behind the question. But I mean promotional activity in pet really is in a very productive effort because demand is pretty inelastic and consumers tend to be very loyal. I would also add that even pre-pandemic, as you probably realized, Jason, you probably remember this, is that we were growing Blue Buffalo double digits already even in a category that was barely growing in terms of pound before that. And the most important thing to remember is not the trend of the pandemic, but itâs a humanization trend, which I know you well remember. And thatâs been going on for 15 years or so and Blue Buffalo is very well positioned to grow in that market. So even in the face of a category that sees low growth in pounds, Blue Buffalo participates in the fastest-growing part of a very attractive category with the best brand. And so weâre confident no matter what happens in the rest of the category. That Blue Buffalo is going to be well positioned as we look to the future.
Jason English: Yes. No doubt. Iâm not arguing that premiumization should fade away. And to that point, youâve got double-digit growth this quarter. I think everyone has double-digit growth because the inflation out there. Can you unpack maybe that that price/mix line then for us? Like how much of it just pass-through of higher cost? And how much of it is the mix, the premiumization that youâre talking about?
Jeff Harmening: Itâs really a combination. So we did â we have seen meaningful pricing SRM actions on the business obviously, the business itself is high mix, but the largest amount is really what weâre seeing from an SRM standpoint in the quarter.
Jason English: Got it. Alright. Thanks a lot, guys. I will pass it on.
Jeff Harmening: Thanks.
Operator: Our next question comes from Bryan Spillane with Bank of America. You may proceed with your question.
Bryan Spillane: Hey, good morning, guys. Wanted to ask a question about foodservice. And I guess, looking at the margins in the quarter, I know you called out in the press release that maybe pricing has lagged outside of flower milling. So can you just talk about a couple of things. One, how much pricing do you think youâre going to need to recover margins? Can margins sort of recover in the course of fiscal â23. And then maybe separate from that, is there any, I guess, like stranded cost or dis-synergy related to the resegmentation thatâs kind of reflected there. So is it more than just inflation? And is there any like stranded cost or anything related to the resegmentation thatâs affecting it in the near-term?
Jeff Harmening: So Iâll have Kofi probably get into the specifics of this, but this is Jeff. Let me just â it was â itâs a lot to unpack in food service this quarter. I guess one of the takeaways top line I would share with you is that we have high confidence in our food service business and certainly and the fact that we can grow it into the future and that the margins will improve. So I want you to know there is nothing fundamentally mass in our food service business. Having said that, it was â there is a lot going on in this particular quarter. So probably let Kofi explain a little bit of that.
Kofi Bruce: Sure. And let me just start with your reference to index flower pricing or index pricing on our bakery flower, so as a reminder, that is profit neutral, dollar profit neutral. So as prices go up to cover costs, it just flows through at a fixed dollar profit. So as you think about that, a good chunk of the price/mix you saw in the business, which was about 21 points was actually driven by index pricing. On the rest of the business, we did not see enough price/mix come through to cover â fully cover the inflation in the quarter. We subsequently have additional pricing to work with pass-through to the customers. And we would expect in the balance of the year, we will continue to see improvement in the margin prospects for the business. To your question about stranded costs, so as we â just as a reminder, we decoupled the convenience business, primarily focused on convenience stores and other smaller convenience channels and put that into North America retail as part of the snacks business. And with that, we actually moved administrative structure as well. So there isnât really an overhang from stranded costs, all of that kind of went with the business. So this is a pretty fair representation of the underlying food service business margins.
Bryan Spillane: Okay. So, some of this is just the math of flour prices going up, you get the dollar profits, but itâs profit neutral. And the rest is really just going to be catching up to inflation, I guess in the non-flour milling piece? Is that a good way to say that?
Kofi Bruce: That is exactly the way I would put it. You have got it.
Jeff Harmening: And Bryan, just to maybe put a finer point on that pricing going up for index pricing with no incremental profit dollars coming with it is actually margin negative for the segment in the quarter to the tune of about 200 basis points. So, margin which is obviously a big portion of â you are seeing that flow through in this quarter.
Bryan Spillane: Yes. Perfect. Thanks Jeff. Thanks guys. Appreciate it.
Jeff Harmening: You bet.
Operator: Our next question comes from Jonathan Feeney with Consumer Edge. You may proceed with your question.
Jonathan Feeney: Hey. Good morning. Thanks very much. Two questions. First, I wanted to on the 14 â dig-in on the 14% to 15% expected COGS inflation. Could you comment, if you can, any more about kind of how much of that is input costs relative to all the other structural inflationary things in Japan? Just a flavor for that or is input cost the vast majority of that would be helpful. My second question would be more broadly in the U.S. promotional levels, merchandising levels or if you want to use the syndicated data, something like 10 points off their pre-COVID normal. Do â are retailers expecting they get back to that pre-COVID normal at some point? Thanks.
Kofi Bruce: Yes. Well, let me start on the front part of the question, and then I will hand the second part probably to Jon or Jeff. Just as you think about our call on modestly higher inflation, we are seeing a couple of things go on, but primarily it reflects the burden of higher labor, energy and transportation costs on our suppliers, in particular, on items in our COGS that have high conversion. So, think about your value-added ingredients such as nuts, fruits, flavors, etcetera, so the pass-through impact of that. Second is that we â as we have been working our way through the quarter and on the expectation that we will see higher volume flow-through as a result of slight lower elasticities than expected. We have outstripped coverage in some areas. So, we are actually buying out in the back of the year at and exposed to more spot market prices. So, that â those are the primary drivers as we think about it. And then just as a reminder, we started taking coverage positions at the turn of the calendar year for this year. And our coverage position is still reasonably strong relative to the spot prices. So, we are effectively pretty in the money as you think about our coverage. So, those are some of the critical things just as you think about the guidance and how we are thinking about the balance of the year on inflation. And then I will let Jon or Jeff handle the second part of your question.
Jeff Harmening: Yes. Let me â this is Jeff. Let me take that one. I think as I said at a conference a couple of weeks ago, we think the risk of promotions ramping up significantly over the next couple of quarters is quite low. And the reason is that you kind of have to believe three things to be true in order for â to see a lot of promotions increase. The first, you would have to think that this inflationary cycle were different than the ones we have seen before. And I was running a business in the last inflationary cycle here at General Mills. And what we see is that there isnât really a sharp increase in promotions coming out of an inflationary cycle. So, you have to think that the environment would be different. The second thing is you have to believe the disruption in the supply chain are going to change significantly from where they are now. And the third is that you would have to see COGS inflation not only decelerate, but also get to absolute deflation. And the fact is that I think you need all three of those things, we donât see any of those things as we see right now. We just increased our guidance on inflation a little bit. We have told you that supply chain disruptions remain high, elevated, they are about 2x what they were before the pandemic, even if they are below what they were a year ago. And then there is inflationary cycle as we see keep playing out, so â but thatâs what we think. I mean that the risk is relatively low given what I just laid out.
Jonathan Feeney: Thanks. Very helpful.
Jeff Harmening: Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from Ken Zaslow with Bank of Montreal. You may proceed with your question.
Ken Zaslow: Good morning guys.
Jeff Harmening: Good morning.
Ken Zaslow: Two questions. One is, what are your expectations for your innovation progression this year and next relative to the last 2 years?
Jeff Harmening: I would say in aggregate, we would expect our levels of innovation to roughly flow the same as they have in prior years. I would say the one exception to that would probably be our pet business. Clearly, when you are capacity constrained innovating when you are capacity constrained is a little bit difficult. And so in pet, we would see our innovation weighted to the second half of the year, and we will talk about that more in December. We are actually quite pleased with some of the innovation we see coming. A lot of it is on our established businesses and some of it some new products. But in pet, I would say that we probably have more coming in the second half of the year than the first half of the year. But in general, the promotion â the innovation timing is roughly similar.
Ken Zaslow: But you donât think that you will accelerate given your supply constraints being a little bit ease. I would have thought you would have told me your innovation will actually accelerate over the next 2 years, given all the things that have happened between the consumer and the â but I hear what you are saying. I am just curious. And then my next question is as you go forward in a couple of years, can your gross profits expand if elasticity becomes what you think itâs going to be and volumes donât kind of subside a little bit, or do you truly need the volume operating leverage because that seems to be one of the points you pointed to as a key core reason for gross margin expansion. So, I was just trying to get a little color on that, and I appreciate your time.
Kofi Bruce: Sure. I appreciate the question. This is Kofi. So, I would just note. Our gross margins are down still relative to the pre-pandemic. So, in fiscal â19, probably about 140 basis points or so and I think the goal for us during this inflationary period has really been to drive our HMM cost savings between roughly 3% to 4%. And our price mix benefits from SRM to be enough to offset inflation. And I think actually, as we measure it, we have done a pretty good job of kind of covering the inflation with the combination of those two things. The reason our gross margins are down versus that period is because of the cost of dealing with supply chain disruptions and the additional cost to operate and serve the business in this environment. So, those costs, when the supply chain environment stabilized are the things that we would expect to be able to take out in relatively short order with targeted HMM and productivity actions as well as changes in our supply footprint. And that, I think gives us confidence that as we step out of this environment, we will be able to get our gross margins back to sort of pre-pandemic levels in a more stable environment.
Ken Zaslow: Okay. Appreciate it. Thanks guys.
Jeff Harmening: You bet.
Operator: Our next question comes from Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler. You may proceed with your question.
Michael Lavery: Thank you. Good morning.
Jeff Harmening: Good morning.
Michael Lavery: You have mentioned consumers shifting back to more food at home as part of whatâs probably softening elasticities, but your organic growth in food service outpaced North America retail. And even going back a few years, I know there are some moving parts, maybe the comparisons arenât all perfect, but it looks like even against fiscal 1Q â20, itâs growing faster. Is there â is that driven by inflation and index pricing, or is there just that much momentum in food service? Maybe help us reconcile just how strong the numbers look versus some of the very logical color about consumer shipping back to more homes.
Jeff Harmening: Michael, you are right in the sense that it is logical to assume that the food service will move in a different direction than with our retail business, given the trend at at-home consumption. But there are two things playing into this for the quarter and one thing playing over this more generally. In the quarter, remember, we have a lot of index pricing on bakery flour, which is â which really inflates the sales number on our food service business. I mean the accounting is right, but it just â it makes it look higher than it would be otherwise. And so that really all of our growth this quarter in food service is a result of that index pricing. Thatâs the first thing I would tell you. The second is that even given that, though, our food service business doesnât move in perfect correlation, inverse correlation with our retail business because we have a really big school business. And so we are not only servicing restaurants, we have a significant part that we sell cereal and yogurt and other baked goods through our education, and we are really, really good at that. And so that demand tends to be a little bit more inelastic. And so even though it may seem logical in the face of it, they have food service inversely with retail, and point of fact, ours doesnât move perfectly that way for that reason, even if we take out of consideration the index pricing.
Michael Lavery: Okay. Thatâs helpful. And then can I just follow-up on â you called out higher SG&A in pet as one of the margin drivers or having an impact on margin. What maybe is behind that? I guess I am just curious because if there is the capacity constraints on two of the biggest pieces of that business, it wouldnât seem like itâs higher marketing. Is it just a sort of a step-up in the G&A, or whatâs behind the SG&A curve there?
Kofi Bruce: Yes. No, we have had, along with most of our retail businesses, modest increases in our spending behind data and analytics. So, that would be a big chunk of, as you think about whatâs driving SG&A growth in the comp. That would be more of it. As you know, obviously, we have maintained modest levels of increases in media as we step through, and we are trying to manage through the supply pressure on this business.
Jeff Harmening: And Michael, the one other thing is you have got now a full quarter of the Tyson business that we acquired last year. So, there is a bit of step-up in SG&A just by the math of adding an incremental business there.
Michael Lavery: Okay. Thanks for all of that.
End of Q&A:
Jeff Harmening: You bet. Okay. I think we are going to go ahead and wrap up there. I appreciate everyoneâs time and good questions. And please feel free to follow-up over the course of the day with the IR team, and we look forward to being in touch next quarter.
Operator: That does conclude the conference call for today. We thank you for your participation, and we ask that you please disconnect your lines.
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General Mills, Inc. (NYSE:GIS) Q2 2025 Earnings Overview
- Earnings per share (EPS) of $1.40, surpassing estimates and indicating a 12% year-over-year increase.
- Revenue reached approximately $5.24 billion, exceeding expectations.
- Financial metrics reveal a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 13.93 and a debt-to-equity ratio of 1.58, showcasing the company's robust financial health.
General Mills, Inc. (NYSE:GIS) is a leading global food company known for its wide range of products, including cereals, snacks, and pet foods. The company operates in a competitive market alongside other major players like Kellogg's and Nestlé. On December 18, 2024, General Mills reported its Q2 2025 earnings, showcasing strong financial performance.
General Mills reported earnings per share (EPS) of $1.40, surpassing the estimated $1.22. This represents a 12% increase year over year on a constant currency basis, as highlighted by Zacks. The company's revenue also exceeded expectations, reaching approximately $5.24 billion compared to the estimated $5.14 billion. This performance underscores General Mills' robust financial health.
The earnings call featured key executives, including CEO Jeff Harmening and CFO Kofi Bruce, who provided insights into the company's strategic direction. Analysts from major financial institutions attended the call, reflecting the market's interest in General Mills' performance. The call was conducted in a listen-only mode, allowing participants to focus on the company's financial results and future plans.
General Mills' financial metrics provide further insight into its market valuation. The company has a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of approximately 13.93, indicating how the market values its earnings. Its price-to-sales ratio is about 1.79, reflecting the market's valuation of its revenue. The enterprise value to sales ratio stands at around 2.40, suggesting how the company's total value compares to its sales.
The company's financial leverage is highlighted by a debt-to-equity ratio of approximately 1.58. This ratio indicates the extent to which General Mills is financing its operations through debt. Additionally, the current ratio of around 0.92 suggests the company's ability to cover its short-term liabilities with its short-term assets. These metrics provide a comprehensive view of General Mills' financial position.
General Mills Beats Q2 Expectations but Lowers Full-Year Profit Forecast
General Mills (NYSE:GIS) delivered stronger-than-expected second-quarter results, with adjusted earnings per share of $1.40 surpassing analyst estimates of $1.22. Revenue rose 2% year-over-year to $5.2 billion, beating the forecasted $5.14 billion. However, despite the solid quarterly performance, shares dipped more than 4% as the company reduced its full-year profit outlook.
The company now anticipates adjusted operating profit to decline 2–4% in constant currency, a revision from its prior guidance of flat to down 2%. The adjustment reflected rising promotional investments and additional challenges expected in the second half of the fiscal year.
While the company achieved progress in key areas, such as accelerating volume growth and returning its North America Pet business to positive growth, the outlook for organic net sales growth in fiscal 2025 narrowed to the lower end of the 0–1% range. Adjusted earnings per share are now projected to decline 1–3% in constant currency, down from the earlier guidance of -1% to +1%.
Second-quarter results were bolstered by temporary factors, including increased retailer inventories, which are expected to reverse in the latter half of the year. Performance varied across segments, with flat sales in North America Retail and a 5% sales increase in the North America Pet business.
Despite progress in several areas, General Mills faces headwinds in maintaining momentum, with the updated guidance reflecting the challenges ahead.
General Mills, Inc. (NYSE:GIS) Quarterly Earnings Insight
- Analysts estimate an EPS of $1.22 and projected revenue of $5.14 billion for the upcoming quarterly earnings.
- There is a keen interest in General Mills' financial performance, with a focus on key metrics beyond just revenue and profit figures.
- Financial ratios such as a P/E ratio of approximately 15.56 and a price-to-sales ratio of about 1.87 provide insights into the company's market valuation.
General Mills, Inc. (NYSE:GIS) is a leading global food company known for its wide range of products, including cereals, snacks, and pet foods. As a major player in the consumer goods sector, it competes with other giants like Kellogg's and Nestlé. The company is set to release its quarterly earnings on December 18, 2024, with analysts estimating an EPS of $1.22 and projected revenue of $5.14 billion.
As highlighted by Benzinga, analysts have been revising their forecasts ahead of the earnings call, indicating a keen interest in General Mills' financial performance. The focus is not just on the typical revenue and profit figures but also on key metrics that could provide deeper insights into the company's operations. This anticipation suggests that the upcoming earnings report could significantly impact the stock's price.
Despite the projected revenue increase, analysts expect a decline in earnings for the quarter ending November 2024. This expectation is crucial for understanding the company's earnings outlook. If General Mills surpasses these estimates, the stock might see an upward movement. Conversely, failing to meet expectations could lead to a decline, making the earnings call a pivotal event for investors.
General Mills' financial ratios provide further context for its valuation. With a P/E ratio of approximately 15.56, investors are willing to pay $15.56 for each dollar of earnings. The price-to-sales ratio of about 1.87 indicates that investors pay $1.87 for every dollar of sales. These metrics help investors gauge the company's market value relative to its earnings and sales.
The company's enterprise value to operating cash flow ratio is around 14.05, offering insight into its valuation compared to cash flow. An earnings yield of about 6.43% provides a perspective on shareholder returns. Additionally, a debt-to-equity ratio of approximately 1.44 highlights the proportion of debt in financing assets. The current ratio of around 0.66 suggests the company's ability to cover short-term liabilities with short-term assets.
General Mills (NYSE:GIS) Price Target Update and Financial Outlook
- Bryan Spillane of Bank of America Securities updates General Mills (NYSE:GIS) price target to $78, indicating a potential increase of about 4.36% from its current price.
- The sale of General Mills' North American Yogurt business is part of a broader strategy to streamline operations, despite causing a minor stock price drop of 0.2%.
- Wall Street forecasts a downturn in performance for the quarter ended August 2024, with earnings per share expected to decrease by 3.7% year over year to $1.05, and revenue projected to fall by 2.5% to $4.78 billion.
Bryan Spillane of Bank of America Securities recently updated the price target for General Mills (NYSE:GIS) to $78, suggesting a potential increase of about 4.36% from its current price of $74.74. This adjustment reflects a positive outlook on the company's financial future. General Mills, a leading global food company, is known for its wide range of products, including cereals, snacks, and yogurt. The company operates in a competitive industry, facing off against other food giants like Kellogg's and PepsiCo.
The anticipation around General Mills' first-quarter earnings is high, especially considering the company's strategic moves and the broader consumer landscape. Analysts are keen to see how General Mills' recent sale of its North American Yogurt business to Lactalis and Sodiaal, announced on September 12, will impact its financials. This sale, which led to a minor drop in stock price by 0.2%, closing at $73.01, is part of the company's broader strategy to streamline its operations and focus on its core brands.
Wall Street forecasts for the quarter ended August 2024 suggest a slight downturn in performance compared to the previous year, with earnings per share expected to decrease by 3.7% year over year to $1.05, and revenue projected to fall by 2.5% to $4.78 billion. These projections come amidst a minor adjustment in the consensus estimate for the company's earnings per share, which saw a downward revision of 0.1% over the last 30 days. This adjustment reflects the analysts' reevaluation of their initial forecasts, indicating a cautious stance on the company's short-term financial outlook.
The significance of these earnings estimate revisions cannot be understated, as they often influence investor reactions to a company's stock. Historical data shows a strong correlation between the direction of earnings estimate revisions and the stock's short-term price movements. As General Mills prepares to release its first-quarter earnings, investors and analysts alike will be closely watching how these factors play out in the company's financial performance.
Ahead of the earnings call, the stock has seen slight fluctuations, trading at $74.625, with a minor change of -0.005%. The stock's performance over the past year, ranging from a low of $60.33 to a high of $75.9, alongside a market capitalization of approximately $41.54 billion, underscores the company's significant presence in the market. With these financial dynamics at play, the upcoming earnings report will be crucial in determining General Mills' trajectory in the competitive food industry landscape.
General Mills, Inc. (NYSE:GIS) Stock Target Price Fluctuations and Analyst Sentiment
- Initial average target price was set at $72.75, later adjusted to $69.00, and recently increased to $71.50.
- Credit Suisse analyst Robert Moskow anticipates General Mills to surpass earnings expectations, setting a specific price target of $68.
- The adjustments in target prices reflect a cautiously optimistic outlook on General Mills' financial health and growth prospects.
General Mills, Inc. (NYSE:GIS), a prominent player in the global food industry, has been navigating the complex landscape of consumer preferences and market dynamics with its diverse product range. Known for its iconic brands like Cheerios and Häagen-Dazs, General Mills has established a strong presence in various segments, including retail and pet food. The company's ability to adapt and innovate has been crucial in maintaining its competitive edge against rivals in the food sector.
The stock target price for General Mills has experienced notable changes over the past year, reflecting the evolving analyst sentiment towards the company. Initially, the average target price was set at $72.75, showcasing a positive outlook. However, this figure was adjusted to $69.00 in the last quarter, indicating a tempered expectation. Recently, there has been a slight uptick to $71.50, suggesting a resurgence of optimism among analysts. This fluctuation in target prices underscores the dynamic nature of market perceptions and the impact of various factors on investor confidence.
Credit Suisse analyst Robert Moskow's recent analysis sheds light on the reasons behind the renewed confidence in General Mills. Moskow anticipates that the company will surpass earnings expectations in its upcoming report, driven by a favorable combination of factors that historically lead to earnings beats. This optimism is further supported by a specific price target of $68 set by Credit Suisse, indicating a belief in the company's strong performance potential. Such analyses play a significant role in shaping the consensus target price and reflect the underlying confidence in General Mills' strategic direction and market positioning.
The anticipation of General Mills exceeding earnings expectations is a testament to the company's strategic initiatives and its ability to navigate market challenges. The analysis by Credit Suisse highlights the importance of understanding the factors that contribute to financial performance, including product mix and market trends. As General Mills prepares for its earnings announcement, investors and stakeholders are closely watching, with the recent adjustments in target prices indicating a cautiously optimistic outlook on the company's financial health and growth prospects.
While the consensus target price for General Mills has seen adjustments over the past year, the underlying factors contributing to these changes are crucial for investors to consider. The company's broad portfolio, strategic market responses, and the potential to surpass earnings expectations are key drivers of analyst sentiment. As General Mills continues to adapt to consumer preferences and market dynamics, the evolving target prices reflect the ongoing assessment of its financial outlook and investment potential.
General Mills Shares Fall on Outlook Cut
General Mills (NYSE:GIS) experienced a more than 2% decline in its shares intra-day today after the company revised its full-year forecast downwards.
In its fiscal second quarter, General Mills reported an adjusted earnings per share (EPS) of $1.25, an improvement from $1.10 in the same period last year and higher than the anticipated $1.15. However, net sales decreased by 1.6% year-over-year to $5.14 billion, falling short of the expected $5.35 billion.
The company now anticipates a slower volume recovery in fiscal 2024. This updated outlook is based on a more conservative consumer economic forecast and a quicker return to normal competitive availability on store shelves.
Consequently, organic net sales projections have been adjusted to a range between -1% and flat, a significant change from the previously estimated growth of 3-4%. This adjustment reflects the expected slower volume recovery in the upcoming fiscal year.
Additionally, General Mills now forecasts adjusted operating profit and adjusted diluted EPS to grow by 4-5% in constant currency, a slight decrease from the previously projected growth range of 4-6% in constant currency.
General Mills Reports Better Than Expected Q1 Earnings Results
General Mills (NYSE:GIS) reported a decline in adjusted earnings for the first quarter, but it still exceeded expectations. This achievement can be attributed to the stabilization of supply chains and the resilience of consumers in the face of inflationary pressures.
In the first quarter, General Mills reported earnings per share (EPS) of $1.09, surpassing the analyst estimate of $1.08. The company's revenue for the quarter reached $4.9 billion, slightly ahead of the Street estimate of $4.89 billion.
Furthermore, General Mills has reaffirmed its outlook for the fiscal year 2024, expressing confidence in driving organic net sales growth through robust marketing, innovation, in-store support, and effective pricing strategies. The company also expects a moderation in the rate of input cost inflation, along with a reduction in disruptions within its supply chains.
General Mills anticipates organic net sales growth of 3 to 4 percent and projects a 4 to 6 percent increase in both adjusted operating profit and adjusted diluted EPS in constant currency.