Dell Technologies Inc. (DELL) on Q4 2021 Results - Earnings Call Transcript
Operator: Good afternoon, and welcome to the Fiscal Year 2021 Fourth Quarter and Year End Financial Results Conference Call for Dell Technologies Inc. I’d like to inform all participants this call is being recorded at the request of Dell Technologies. This broadcast is the copyrighted property of Dell Technologies, Inc. Any rebroadcast of this information in whole or part without the prior written permission of Dell Technologies is prohibited. Following prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Rob Williams: Thanks, Katherine and thanks, everyone for joining us today. With me today are our Vice Chairman and COO, Jeff Clarke, our CFO, Tom Sweet; and our Treasurer, Tyler Johnson. Our press release, financial tables, web deck, prepared remarks and additional materials are available on our IR website. The guidance section will be covered on today's call. During this call, unless we otherwise indicate, all references to financial measures refer to non-GAAP financial measures, including non-GAAP revenue, gross margin, operating expenses, operating income, net income, earnings per share, EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted free cash flow. A reconciliation of these measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in our web deck and press release. Please also note that all growth percentages refer to year-over-year change unless otherwise specified. Additionally, I’d like to remind you that all statements made during this call that relate to future results and events are forward-looking statements, based on current expectations. Actual results and events could differ materially from those projected due to a number of risks and uncertainties, which are discussed in our web deck and SEC filings. We assume no obligation to update our forward-looking statements. Finally, before I turn it over to Jeff, I want to touch on the amended 13D we filed in July 2020, regarding our exploration of potential alternatives with respect to our ownership interest in VMware. We continue to believe that a tax-free spin could drive significant shareholder value by simplifying our capital structures and enabling greater strategic flexibility, while maintaining a strong commercial partnership between Dell and VMware. Both companies continue to be engaged on key work streams, and as VMware communicated earlier today, we are making progress in our discussion. However, there is no assurance that we will reach a definitive agreement. We will not address the discussions any further or take questions related to this topic on today's call. Now, I’ll turn it over to Jeff. Jeff Clarke: Thanks Rob. Hi, everyone. Thanks for joining us for our first call of calendar 2021. 2020 was a year that none of us anticipated and none of us want to repeat. But it also brought out the best of humanity and reinforced the criticality of technology to solving the problems of today and tomorrow. At Dell Technologies, we are grateful and honored to have a central role in helping our customers, from consumers to the largest enterprises, keep our society, our economy and our lives moving forward. Tom Sweet: Thanks, Jeff. Given what we were modeling for the demand environment early last year with the onset of the pandemic, I am pleased with the record results in revenue, operating income, earnings per share, and cash generation; both for the full year and the fourth quarter. The flexibility of our business model and the adaptability of our team positioned us to successfully navigate the macro environment, while enabling our customers' digital transformation. We ended the year with a strong Q4. Revenue was up 8% to $26.1 billion, driven primarily by the strong growth in our CSG and VMware businesses with improvement in our ISG business. With a weaker US dollar, FX was a tailwind in the quarter of approximately 100 basis points. Gross margin was $8.6 billion, up 3% and 33% of revenue. Gross margin as a percent of revenue was 170 basis points lower driven by the overall mix shift to CSG given the strong client demand environment. Operating expense was $5.3 billion, down 5% year-over-year, but up 6% sequentially. In the quarter, we started to add back certain employee-related costs like 401(k) match, merit, promotions and new hiring to support growth. Operating income was up 19% to $3.3 billion, or 12.6% of revenue driven primarily by the operating expense controls, revenue growth in CSG and improved Consumer gross margins. Consolidated net income was $2.3 billion, up 36%, and earnings per share was $2.70 a share, up 35%. Our operational execution and the strong demand environment combined to deliver record P&L metrics and a record $5.9 billion in cash flow from operations. Total deferred revenue was $30.8 billion, up $3 billion. Our recurring revenue, which includes deferred revenue amortization, utility and as-a-Service models, is now approximately $6 billion a quarter, up 8% year-over-year. And as Jeff highlighted, our APEX offerings will broaden our as-a-Service solutions across our portfolio, giving customers more flexibility to scale their IT solutions to meet their business needs and budgets. Rob Williams: Thanks, Tom. Let’s get to Q&A. We ask that each participant ask one question to allow us to get to as many of you as we can. Katherine, can you please introduce the first question? Operator: Our first question comes from the line of Aaron Rakers with Wells Fargo. Aaron Rakers: Yes, thanks. I guess the question is on the PC business as we look at your growth commercial up 16%, I think your competitor tonight was down 6%. I'm just curious how do you see as we return back to normal just the demand environment on commercial PCs? And what's your expectation of growth in that segment as we move through the course of 2021? Jeff Clarke: Sure Aaron, this is Jeff. If you think about where the strong points of growth have been in commercial this past year we think there are sources of growth as we head into 2021 and education being one of those the public sector being one of those there's a modernization moving towards notebooks the mobile form factor. We're seeing the mobile form factor now represent roughly 25% -- or excuse me 75% of the marketplace desktops being 25% of the marketplace. That bodes well for public organizations that have been roughly 50-50 notebook and desktops, so some catching up to do there. We think that continues to fuel growth as we head in to the 2021 calendar year soon to be or now our fiscal 2022 for us. So I think those signs are good. I think we also have to realize that people are going to go back to work and go into an office in many cases they haven't been in for five, six, seven quarters depending on when that occurs. That will be the largest aging or the most significant aging of an installed base that certainly we've seen ever in our industry. I also think this -- it's an important consideration in this work-from-home and do-from-anywhere environment, we don't believe slows down post pandemic or post people going back to the office. So we're going to continue to see an environment where people will do more and more work more and more of their activities away from the office, driving demand for PCs which has become essential in this type of work environment, this type of consumer environment. I think I said on our last call, there's no question in our mind that the PC has become one of, if not the most essential device in this work-from-anywhere, do-from-anywhere environment that we're in today. Long-winded way of saying I think the market continues to look strong. If you saw the IDC data that came out yesterday their strength of the demand environment continues to be strong in both the commercial and consumer marketplaces in calendar 2021. I hope that helps. Rob Williams: Yeah. Thank you Aaron, I appreciate it. Let’s go to the next question, please? Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Rod Hall with Goldman Sachs. Rod Hall: Yeah. Great. Thanks for the question. Tom, I wanted to drill into this cash flow number because it's extremely strong. And just get you maybe to talk a little bit about working capital changes there. How that working capital change looks in April? I mean normally in April, you'd be increasing working capital. I wonder if that's going to be the case this year. Just maybe talk us through kind of how sustainable some of that is? Thank you. Tom Sweet: Yes. Hi, Rod. I'm happy to chat about it. First, let me just say, I think the company had an extraordinary Q4 from a cash flow perspective. And I think it shows the power of the model when you get sequential growth quarter-on-quarter in the business like we did. And Q4 was normally a strong cash flow quarter for us to begin with Rod. So if you look at the demands or the dynamics of working capital, what you saw was despite the strong revenue growth which drove a build in accounts receivable, our aging actually improved. I think we had good discipline around our inventory positions. And our payables positions were I think appropriate. As we think -- so there wasn't really anything unusual in the quarter from a working capital dynamic other than I think the team executed well in managing the balance sheet and we benefited from the strong business environment and the revenue environment that we saw. I would -- so as we step from Q4 into Q1, I would remind everybody that Q1 is traditionally our weakest cash quarter. It's also generally our weakest quarter of the year from a business perspective. So we normally see a cash -- we normally burn some cash in Q1. And I think our expectation is that we'll do that again in the quarter, although probably not to the extent that we did it a year ago. So I mean I think we're being good -- I feel really good about our cash position $10.6 billion at the core Dell level. I think the teams, I think we're well positioned from a liquidity perspective. If you heard in my prepared remarks we've already notified the bondholders of $1 billion pay-down from some of the maturity schedules that are due this year which only leaves us $500 million of scheduled maturities for the year. So I think we're in good shape Rod and we'll continue to manage our way and be disciplined in the balance sheet. Tyler, would you add anything to that? Rod Hall: Okay. Thank you Tyler Johnson: Yes. Look I think the only thing I would add is, look, I think we'll remain focused on working capital, right? I mean we did end at really good levels, right? I don't expect there to be a material shift as we work through next year. So I guess the only other thing is keep in mind also that Q1 a year ago, we did have some impacts from COVID to working capital, right? So obviously we won't have those same impacts going into Q1 this year. Rob Williams: Thanks, Tyler. Thanks, Rod. Rod Hall: Thank you Rob Williams: Next question, please? Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Katy Huberty with Morgan Stanley. Katy Huberty: Yes. Thank you. Maybe Jeff, what do you expect the shape of the recovery to look like in ISG this year given that was a laggard in fiscal 2021? And just a color around orders or the pipeline build that you saw in ISG that might build some confidence in a recovery? Thanks. Jeff Clarke: Sure. I will tell you it's one of the questions Tom and I often sit back and reflect on inside the company as we look at our FY 2022 plan just how the ISG market responds. You've seen the market forecast, there shows growth to be in both the server and storage sectors. We spend a lot of time trying to figure out a model, what that looks like in terms of when and at what rate it comes back. It's still a little foggy, if you will, to call, because if you look at the IDC forecast for storage as an example in Q1, it's negative. That said, I think there's some encouraging signs in our business. If you recall in our Q3 comments I think, I made a comment that our server business accelerated throughout the quarter and that momentum continued in Q4 to the point where our server business had, for the first time in eight quarters, growth, that's encouraging. We saw in our server business large bids respond back positively. Our small business and medium business sectors came back positively. So seeing growth in the server sector is I think very encouraging for us. We saw growth in the high-value workloads. We're actually very excited about the progress that we've made in high-value workloads seeing that growth being in, let's say, significant double digits, if you will, and increasing our share position in the most valuable workloads in the data center. I'm encouraged by that and it clearly looks like server momentum continues. Storage; clearly you've seen our results; we were down in the quarter, an improvement over Q3. We saw vast improvement in the midrange, the first time we've grown the midrange now in storage, I believe, it's in nine quarters. We grew midrange by 8% on the back of PowerStore. We had growth in both our PowerStore business our HCI segment, we grew in our data -- our PowerProtect data domain segment and we grew which I think is equally important in our all-flash array segment. So we had growth in those areas in our storage business, obviously, still down but I'm encouraged by the progress we've made in the midrange. I think I made reference in our talking points about PowerStore is now up 4 times what it was in Q3 and Q4. 20% of the customers are new storage buyers. Our win rate against the competition is up or tripled, or up 3 times, if you will. And I think that bodes well given the progress we've made over the last three years in consolidating the high end of the storage marketplace where we've aggregated our share position by over 1,300 basis points, to over 50% of the market in the high end. Now with the momentum we have in the midrange, the opportunity is to grow the sub-$250,000 segment the midrange and that's what we eye. How to call that? Tom can weigh in here in a moment. We both again spend a lot of time -- I don't know which is probably -- you've seen some of the prudent outlook that we have for the year of when that comes back in our business. Tom Sweet: No, I would just say, Jeff, I would agree with that Katie. I mean it's just a -- trying to figure out the timing I think is what we've been focused on and it's a little unclear now. We clearly think the back half is better than the first half. Jeff Clarke: Correct. Tom Sweet: In terms of ISG velocity, just a question of that sequencing and the timing. So we're obviously going to be focused on it. And I think you've seen our history and our execution where we will drive where there's growth and take advantage of the market opportunities but it's still a little bit unclear in terms of sequencing there. Jeff Clarke: All right. Awesome. Thanks Tom. Katy, Thanks. Katherine, if you take the next question. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tim Long with Barclays. Peter Zdebski: Hi. This is Peter Zdebski on for Tim. Congratulations on the quarter. I wonder if you could drill down a bit on the gross margin outlook into fiscal 2022, specifically as related to component costs and any supply chain considerations there. Rob Williams: Yeah. Hey, let me start and then Jeff you should take the supply chain and component cost. So, look, I think as we think about margin -- and I'm not going to go to gross margin. Let me just sort of think tell you about how we think about the bottom of the P&L, so to speak. Look, there'll be some mix dynamics as we work our way through the year in terms of the CSG ISG businesses. We also -- let me remind you that we've also added, we are adding OpEx back into the business this year as we think about the some of the employee benefits that we've reinstated like 401(k) match and some of the merit cycle. VMware is also investing in their business. And so they've got a heavier -- a bit more OpEx into the business. So net-net, I would tell you that we do think there's a -- if we think about operating margin we do think on a percentage basis that it is -- it probably run slightly lower than it did this year. And the absolute dollars are probably down slightly as well. So those are the things that we're working our way through. Now, look I mean, I think the reality is, is that we'll have to work our way through the year in component costs which Jeff can highlight, it's going to be a dynamic that we're going to have to work through as well. Jeff Clarke: Yes. I have to weigh on the supply chain and commodity cost dynamics. Clearly, in 2020 we ended the year as a deflationary year. Our view right now as we look at 2021 Q1 is light deflationary. And then we believe over the year, it becomes inflationary. What's driving that? We see in Q1 SSDs continue to be coming down in costs offset, if you will by increased cost what we see in LCDs and ICs that are driving some of the demand supply shortages that we have in the marketplace today. If I was to call out one specific thing, which we're keeping our eye on is freight costs. Freight costs continue to be a challenge for us. So that's not exactly component or commodity cost that part of our supply chain transformation. And while rates have, I think eased a little bit, the fact is the industry is using and we are using more air, we're expediting more and the air network is tight. So we continue to watch the cost increase overall in that area, as well as steering into an overall inflationary year in calendar 2021 but to be specific deflationary in calendar Q1 -- fiscal Q1, excuse me. Rob Williams: Thanks, Jeff. Next question. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Toni Sacconaghi with Bernstein. Toni Sacconaghi: Yes. Thank you. Tom you commented about full year 2022 guidance being in the low to mid-single digits, but I think at spot rates currency will probably help almost two points. Maybe you can confirm that and you also talked about IDC and Gartner end markets growing at 5%. So putting those altogether would be that you're kind of assuming share loss in 2022. And I'm wondering, if you can reconcile that. And maybe more specifically I think there's always a lot of interest from investors about ISG that's been the one business that has been up and down over the last four years. I think, it's been down three in the last four. Do you believe that servers and networking and storage can grow at constant currency in fiscal 2022 and is that -- is that sort of embedded in your guidance? Thank you. Jeff Clarke: Hey, Toni, so let me try and connect the dots with those multiple data points that you threw out. So look I think as our view right now is we think our way through fiscal 2022 and let me start with the fact that, well there are signs of optimism or in terms of ISG demand. We do -- we are being prudent in my opinion on when does that sequence in. So we'll take advantage of the growth opportunities that are there as they present themselves. I think from a revenue framework I would have you think about our range of thinking right now is roughly in that 3% to 5% from a revenue growth range with what we know today. Obviously, we'll continue to watch this and take advantage of the opportunities and continue to provide you our perspective as we think our way as we go through the year. On a currency basis, I'll ask Tyler to jump in as well. Look, we do expect to get a bit of a tailwind from currency. I won't comment on the spot rate that you made. Tyler Johnson: I guess it's fair. Jeff Clarke: I think that's -- I think currency should be a benefit with what we know today. So Tyler would you add anything on that? Tyler Johnson: Yes. No, look I mean, I think definitely we're seeing favorability there, and we'll see what happens over the course of the year. But I agree I think we should see some favorability. Rob Williams: All right. Good. Thanks, Toni. Next question. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Simon Leopold with Raymond James. Simon Leopold: Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to see if you could maybe discuss the impact of the semiconductor supply constraints what you're doing to address, what we've heard across the board in terms of shortages? And if you can quantify if there was a revenue impact in the current quarter and in the April quarter what you expect as a constraint from just supply chain shortages of semiconductors? Thank you. Tom Sweet: Sure. I'm not sure, Simon. I know exactly what you're hearing, but I'll at least illustrate what we're working through, being clearly we've been maneuvering across our supply base for now the better part of 2.5 years there are shortages most notably for the past couple of years with microprocessors. I think we made mention of it at the end of last quarter, the notion of that's now impacting things like LCDs. At the core of the issue is wafer capacity is tax. There's been a number of substrate issues that have disrupted the supply that is impacted particularly the 8-inch network. The 8-inch network makes a lot of the basic components that we all need in the industry from T-com, the driver ICs to power ICs to microcontrollers, card readers, Codex you name it. Those are the types of issues we are working through as an industry. Certainly Dell is working through that. I think we've shown the ability to be resilient and responsive. At this point of pride, we shipped the most PCs, we've ever shipped in Q3. We followed that up in Q4 by shipping the most PCs we've ever shipped in Q4. We had the best quarter in terms of absolute shipments and calendar fee more according to IDC. We just came off 50 million units of PC shipments in the calendar year. This is what we do for a living. This is -- there are challenges. I'm certainly not in denial about that. If you look at the forecast that came out from IDC last night, there's certainly a lot of demand. And we have challenges to make sure that we get the supply for our companies. Again, it's totally new. We think our total buy helps us here. We think our long-term relationship with our supply base helps us here. We think our direct model helps us here by shifting demand to the components that we do get but if you are hearing that there are supply shortages you are hearing correctly. I hope it's across the areas that I described. And that's what we see and we're navigating real-time today. I hope that helps Simon. Simon Leopold: It does. Just to clarify not an issue you're seeing affect your April quarter? Rob Williams: Hey, Simon we're just going to go one question. You can jump back into the queue and follow-up if you'd like to. Thanks. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Krish Sankar with Cowen & Company. Krish Sankar: Yes. Hi. Thank you for taking my question and congrats on the good results in delevering. Jeff I had a question on the storage front. You folks have done a great job in consolidating the storage product portfolio over the last couple of years. And we highlighted some share gains a few quarters ago. How should we think of that momentum going into FY 2022? And where is your storage market share today? Jeff Clarke: Lots of questions. Let me see if I can work through that. So we've largely spent the last three years simplifying and consolidating the portfolio into the power portfolio that you would know them as PowerMax, PowerStore, PowerVault, PowerScale is the primary storage of vehicles. That's gone from I think I've quoted in the past of 88 different platforms, consolidating that to roughly 20 across our portfolio. We've seen tremendous progress in consolidation in the above $250,000 product space over the last three years. I think I mentioned we've taken 1,300 basis points of share have over 50% of the most valuable storage market. The challenges that we had which we've talked about and numerous of these calls is midrange, which is the largest single portion of the marketplace and PowerStore is the vehicle that we built. We launched in May and have been ramping through the year to begin to change our growth trajectory in that business. I'm pleased to say mid-range grew 8% in fiscal Q4. Again the first time we've grown midrange in nine quarters. It's all on the back of PowerStore. The product is being received well by our customers. Again, over Q3, we grew four times. We tripled the amount of competitive takeouts. 20% of the customers are new to the -- or excuse me we doubled the amount of new customers, 20% of the customers are new to our storage business just for PowerStore alone. It is clearly the vehicle that we intend to take share with in fiscal 2022 calendar 2021. I like the progress we've made, but we have work to do in front of us. Tom and I have talked about our, I guess, strategic impatience if we want more faster. We like how we've ended the year. We exit on a high note and we have a big set of ambitions about taking share in the mid-range and storage for PowerStore. Given the progress that we've made and unstructured, the progress we've made in the high end this is the space for us to absolutely capture needed market share we intend to do so. Your last question what's -- what's our market share? If memory serves me right it's right at 28% from the last reported quarter from IDC, which was Q3. I believe -- if I'm off by a couple of 10ths, I'm in the-- Tyler Johnson: 29? Jeff Clarke: Excuse me, I was wrong? 29. That's more than -- don't like to be off that much. Thank you, Rob. I appreciate 29. Krish Sankar: Thank you, Jeff. Rob Williams: I rounded off Jeff Clarke: You round it up on… Rob Williams: Rounded up to 20 basis points. Jeff Clarke: Thanks, Chris. Appreciate that. Nice question. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Wamsi Mohan with Bank of America. Wamsi Mohan: Yes. Thank you. Last year about 12 months ago you had expected fiscal 2021 to look like fiscal 2019 from an op margin rate perspective instead it turned out to be quite different for obvious reasons. As we look at fiscal 2022, maybe can you draw a similar comparison looking back at prior years whether it's fiscal 2019, 2020 or 2021 and talk about how we should think about the profile of fiscal 2022? And if you can comment on order visibility trends relative to three months ago that would be helpful too? Thank you. Tom Sweet: Hey, Wamsi, it's Tom. So let me try and, sort of, give you some context around it. As obviously, FY 2021 had a number of twist and turns in with the -- the pandemic and the extraordinary growth in the CSG business and the work-from-home environment along with the, sort of, the supply/demand dynamic pricing has -- in FY 2021 was relatively stable which helped us from a margin perspective. I think a couple of things to think about as we step into 2022 -- and as it relates to, sort of, op margin. We do expect op margin to go down in 2022 for a couple of reasons; one think about the VMware standalone guidance first and foremost where their operating margin guidance is down. Secondly, we have incremental OpEx going into the business both from an employee benefit perspective as reinstates and benefits as well as some investments. So we do think from an operating margin percentage that it will be less than -- than FY 2021. If you go back to an FY 2020 context, for instance, I do expect that it will be lower than the FY 2020 operating margin. So I do think you got to take that into account, but principally you got to think about the VMware dynamic within our consolidation. So -- and from that perspective, I think that that's something you should be thinking about. So, I think, overall we'll work our way through the year and take advantage of the growth vectors that are there, but we'll have to work -- there will be some challenges as we work our way through the year as usual. Rob Williams: All right. Thanks, Wamsi. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Amit Daryanani with Evercore. Amit Daryanani: Thanks for taking my question. I guess my question really going back to the free cash flow discussion. Really impressive free cash flow generation this quarter, I think, you're back within your target leverage you've talked about. So, I guess, I'm trying to understand how should we think about fiscal 2022 free cash flow what are kind of the puts and takes for consider? And then do we expect to shift your capital allocation given all your macro commentary and the fact that leverage was in the target range now? Tom Sweet: Yes. Hey, Amit. Look, I think, we don't give a cash flow forecast per se. So, I mean, our cash flow generation will be to some extent depending upon how the business performance drives, right? But look I think, we're optimistic about our cash flow and our -- the business overall as we work our way through the year and the cash flow generation as a result of that. Our capital allocation policy is going to remain fairly stable in the context of focused on delevering. We've been pretty consistent on that and what we have talked about is the fact that as we get to and achieve investment grade then that allows us to rethink or relook at the capital allocation policy and broaden it out as we've talked about before in terms of how much of our capital do we want to vote to debt repayment versus some type of a shareholder return program as well as continuing to invest in the business. So, Tyler I don't know what you would add if you would add anything on FY 2022 free cash flow. So, that's how I'm thinking about it. Tyler Johnson: Yes, I mean look I think I mentioned it earlier just from a working capital perspective we're not expecting any huge shifts in our CCC metrics and there's nothing unusual. So, Tom is right. I mean it will follow the shape of the P&L, but obviously, we feel comfortable with the $5 billion plus debt pay-down target that we're throwing out there. We've got cash on the balance sheet. We'll generate good cash flow. And conversations with the rating issues are all very positive. I mean I think quite frankly my guess is it with all three of them our performance for the quarter and for the year better than what they had modeled. I think that we'll see what happens going forward for the year. We'll see what happens with VMware. Obviously, they're watching that closely and that goes into their modeling and their expectations but we've got a little bit of work to do. We're at 2.5 using our metrics and I think we want to get closer to 2, right? Where I think we're probably over half a turn inside of where S&P wants to see us. There are three crossovers. So we're probably sub-2.5 now. We're 2.5 with our metrics. We'll get Fitch and Moody's there and we'll get to S&P. Amit Daryanani: Thanks. I appreciate it. Jeff Clarke: Thanks Amit. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Shannon Cross with Cross Research. Shannon Cross: Thank you very much. I was curious given this is about the time when you look at your comp plans and maybe your channel strategy. What you're focused on for the coming year? And what kind of changes you've made to both our channel strategy as well as your comp plans? Thanks. Tom Sweet: Hey Shannon, it's Tom and then Jeff can jump in here as well. We haven't made significant change to our comp plans our channel strategy. We continue to refine them focused on incentivizing the behaviors we want around driving our higher-value products and services and capabilities and making sure that our programs both from an inside seller and Dell and team member compensation framework and our channel frameworks are consistent. So, not a lot of change to be honest right? We've adjusted certain payout structures based upon focus and emphasis which you might imagine we continue to be focused on the ISG portfolio to a heavy extent. We continue to be focused on the our solution capabilities with VMware and we're incentivizing those appropriately. Jeff I don't know if you'd add anything to that? Jeff Clarke: I'd just be real precise storage and the solutions with VMware those high-value solutions between the two companies that help our company -- help our customers with digital transformation. And Shannon you've heard me say this before storage, storage, storage. Shannon Cross: Thank you. Jeff Clarke: All right. Thanks Shannon. Operator: Your last question comes from the line of Jim Suva with Citigroup. Jim Suva: Thank you very much for fitting me in. Tom, you gave some really good commentaries on overall in your different business segments. I'd just like to ask one follow-up question on the storage business. You talked about how you've done a lot of consolidating of your products and you feel like your portfolio is in really good shape. If we compare though your recent results to say NetApp and some of the other ones that just recently came out though your year-over-year sales decline is still lagging the others. So, can you help me bridge the difference between your comments of the portfolio realignment and where you're positioning with the midrange or is it simply a lot of that positioning is yet to come in the future? Thank you. Tom Sweet: Well, I think Jim part of the answer lies in to we have a very large broad diverse portfolio playing in all aspects of the storage marketplace. All hot all of them grow at a similar rate. For example I mentioned about the progress we've made in the highest. We've made tremendous progress in the high end. The high end of the marketplace I think will show that it slowed down quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year. Our exposure to that as I mentioned was half of the marketplace or half of the share is Dell share that slows down that has an impact. Conversely, the area that is growing for us now is on the HCI side and the mid-range side. We've had continued success with HCI and that continues to this day and optimistic about that going forward. We've talked on this call about the challenges that we've had in the mid-range. One data point does not make a trend, but we're encouraged that we had exited Q4, the fiscal year with positive momentum in our mid-range business. We have a lot of work to do there. We're optimistic. We think our product continues to hunt in the marketplace. It's doing very well and I point to the things that keep us -- get us encouraged. The number of competitive takeouts, I don't know what others said are tripled quarter-over-quarter. The number of new customers on PowerStore double, one in five of the customers are new to the Dell storage business. It's four times larger than it was the previous quarter. We clearly have momentum that we have to build and great momentum we need to build from that into FY 2022. We have large expectations in that area. That's going to be key to our absolute performance. We've made progress and unstructured. So when I look at that, I'm optimistic back to one of the earlier questions I believe it was from Katy. We're looking for the market to continue to rebound or respond and that's how we're looking at share and our business performance over the year. Look I'd ask you to go look at what product performance was and some of those results as well versus what our product performance was in the quarter and make those comparisons. That said, we're not satisfied with where we ended in Q4 and the year. It improved over Q3 and we have greater expectations in FY 2022. And back to the point I made in one of the earlier questions, we run these businesses to outperform the marketplaces. We expect to take commercial PC share. We expect to take the server share and we're going to run the business to take storage share in calendar 2021 fiscal 2022. Tyler Johnson: Jeff, if the last two questions didn't qualify where your focus was. I don't know how we could do there. So I appreciate that. Thanks everyone for joining us. We'll be with Stanley next week with Jeff. We've got another -- a number of other virtual events that we'll be hosting or participating in and mark your calendars for Dell World -- Dell Technologies World on May the 5th and 6th, we will host a Financial Analyst Q&A event of course virtually at that. So thanks for joining us. Operator: Ladies and gentlemen this concludes today's conference call. We thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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Dell Technologies (NYSE:DELL) delivered an optimistic outlook for fiscal 2026, lifting its full-year profit guidance even as first-quarter earnings came in below expectations. The mixed results sent shares more than 1% higher intra-day today as investors looked past the earnings shortfall and focused on strong momentum in key growth areas.
For the first quarter, Dell reported adjusted earnings of $1.55 per share on revenue of $23.38 billion. While revenue exceeded analyst expectations, earnings fell short due to demand headwinds stemming from recently implemented tariffs.
Performance across business segments was uneven. The client solutions group, which includes personal computers and laptops, saw overall revenue rise 5% year-over-year, driven by strong commercial demand. However, consumer sales within the segment dropped 19%, signaling continued pressure in the retail PC space.
On the upside, Dell’s infrastructure solutions group posted a 12% revenue increase, while AI server orders soared to $12.1 billion—surpassing forecasts—and the company ended the quarter with a $14.4 billion backlog, suggesting continued strength in enterprise tech demand.
Looking ahead, Dell expects a robust second quarter, forecasting adjusted earnings of $2.25 per share and revenue between $28.5 billion and $29.5 billion, both ahead of consensus estimates.
For the full fiscal year, the company raised its profit forecast to $9.40 per share at the midpoint and expects revenue to land around $103 billion, signaling confidence in its ability to navigate a complex economic landscape while capitalizing on growth in AI and infrastructure solutions.
Raymond James Lifts Dell Price Target on Long-Term AI Potential
Raymond James raised its price target on Dell Technologies (NYSE:DELL) to $144 from $139, while reiterating an Outperform rating, reflecting confidence in the company’s long-term AI-driven growth despite some short-term headwinds.
The revision comes as the firm adjusts its estimates to account for delays in AI platform rollouts and accelerated PC demand, partly driven by tariff-related buying behavior. The transition between GPU generations in Dell’s AI infrastructure has been more turbulent than expected, increasing the risk of a near-term sales shortfall in AI-related products.
However, analysts remain optimistic about Dell’s positioning beyond 2025. As enterprise adoption of AI moves from training-intensive workloads to inferencing and real-world applications, Dell is seen as well-positioned to deliver sustained growth above historical levels.
With the company set to report earnings on May 29, investors may need to brace for some softness in AI segment results, but the broader story remains intact as AI infrastructure demand matures across the enterprise landscape.
Raymond James Lifts Dell Price Target on Long-Term AI Potential
Raymond James raised its price target on Dell Technologies (NYSE:DELL) to $144 from $139, while reiterating an Outperform rating, reflecting confidence in the company’s long-term AI-driven growth despite some short-term headwinds.
The revision comes as the firm adjusts its estimates to account for delays in AI platform rollouts and accelerated PC demand, partly driven by tariff-related buying behavior. The transition between GPU generations in Dell’s AI infrastructure has been more turbulent than expected, increasing the risk of a near-term sales shortfall in AI-related products.
However, analysts remain optimistic about Dell’s positioning beyond 2025. As enterprise adoption of AI moves from training-intensive workloads to inferencing and real-world applications, Dell is seen as well-positioned to deliver sustained growth above historical levels.
With the company set to report earnings on May 29, investors may need to brace for some softness in AI segment results, but the broader story remains intact as AI infrastructure demand matures across the enterprise landscape.
Dell Shares Plunge 5% as AI Costs Weigh on 2026 Margin Outlook
Dell Technologies (NYSE:DELL) saw its shares drop more than 5% intra-day today after projecting a decline in adjusted gross margins for its fiscal 2026 year. The Texas-based company cited rising costs linked to AI server expansion and lukewarm demand for its PC segment as primary factors pressuring profitability.
Dell expects its full-year adjusted gross margin rate to decline by approximately 100 basis points. During a call with analysts, Chief Operating Officer Jeff Clarke also acknowledged the company is assessing potential cost impacts from proposed U.S. tariffs under President Donald Trump’s trade policies. Clarke suggested that if input costs increase, price adjustments may be necessary.
Despite margin concerns, Dell remains optimistic about AI-driven growth. The company forecasted a 53% year-over-year surge in AI server shipments, expecting to reach $15 billion in annual sales. These AI servers, powered by Nvidia chips, are positioned to compete with offerings from Super Micro Computer and are built to handle the heavy computational needs of AI training and deployment.
For the fourth quarter, Dell reported adjusted earnings per share of $2.68 on revenue of $23.93 billion, surpassing EPS estimates of $2.53 but falling short of the expected $24.56 billion in revenue.
Looking ahead, Dell provided a mixed outlook. The company projected current-quarter adjusted EPS of $1.65 and revenue between $22.5 billion and $23.5 billion, underperforming consensus estimates of $1.83 per share and $23.72 billion in revenue.
For fiscal 2026, Dell anticipates adjusted EPS of $9.30 on revenue between $101.0 billion and $105.0 billion, aligning closely with expectations of $9.29 EPS and $103.62 billion in revenue. While AI remains a bright spot, margin compression and macroeconomic uncertainty continue to be key concerns for investors.
Dell Shares Plunge 5% as AI Costs Weigh on 2026 Margin Outlook
Dell Technologies (NYSE:DELL) saw its shares drop more than 5% intra-day today after projecting a decline in adjusted gross margins for its fiscal 2026 year. The Texas-based company cited rising costs linked to AI server expansion and lukewarm demand for its PC segment as primary factors pressuring profitability.
Dell expects its full-year adjusted gross margin rate to decline by approximately 100 basis points. During a call with analysts, Chief Operating Officer Jeff Clarke also acknowledged the company is assessing potential cost impacts from proposed U.S. tariffs under President Donald Trump’s trade policies. Clarke suggested that if input costs increase, price adjustments may be necessary.
Despite margin concerns, Dell remains optimistic about AI-driven growth. The company forecasted a 53% year-over-year surge in AI server shipments, expecting to reach $15 billion in annual sales. These AI servers, powered by Nvidia chips, are positioned to compete with offerings from Super Micro Computer and are built to handle the heavy computational needs of AI training and deployment.
For the fourth quarter, Dell reported adjusted earnings per share of $2.68 on revenue of $23.93 billion, surpassing EPS estimates of $2.53 but falling short of the expected $24.56 billion in revenue.
Looking ahead, Dell provided a mixed outlook. The company projected current-quarter adjusted EPS of $1.65 and revenue between $22.5 billion and $23.5 billion, underperforming consensus estimates of $1.83 per share and $23.72 billion in revenue.
For fiscal 2026, Dell anticipates adjusted EPS of $9.30 on revenue between $101.0 billion and $105.0 billion, aligning closely with expectations of $9.29 EPS and $103.62 billion in revenue. While AI remains a bright spot, margin compression and macroeconomic uncertainty continue to be key concerns for investors.
Dell Shares Plunge 12% on Weak Q4 Revenue Guidance
Dell Technologies (NYSE:DELL) saw its shares tumble over 12% in pre-market today after issuing fourth-quarter revenue guidance that fell short of Wall Street expectations, driven by declining demand for traditional PCs and intensifying competition.
For the third quarter, Dell reported adjusted earnings per share (EPS) of $2.15, exceeding the Street consensus estimate of $2.06. However, revenue came in at $24.4 billion, below analyst projections of $24.69 billion.
Performance in the company’s client solutions group, which includes PCs and laptops, weighed on results, with revenue declining 1% year-over-year to $12.1 billion. The infrastructure solutions group, however, provided a bright spot, with revenue surging 34% year-over-year, fueled by robust AI-related demand. Meanwhile, consumer revenue slumped 18% to $2 billion.
Looking ahead, Dell projected fourth-quarter revenue in the range of $24 billion to $25 billion, missing the average analyst estimate of $25.57 billion. The subdued outlook, coupled with weakness in key segments, spurred investor concerns, leading to the sharp decline in Dell’s stock price.
Dell Shares Plunge 12% on Weak Q4 Revenue Guidance
Dell Technologies (NYSE:DELL) saw its shares tumble over 12% in pre-market today after issuing fourth-quarter revenue guidance that fell short of Wall Street expectations, driven by declining demand for traditional PCs and intensifying competition.
For the third quarter, Dell reported adjusted earnings per share (EPS) of $2.15, exceeding the Street consensus estimate of $2.06. However, revenue came in at $24.4 billion, below analyst projections of $24.69 billion.
Performance in the company’s client solutions group, which includes PCs and laptops, weighed on results, with revenue declining 1% year-over-year to $12.1 billion. The infrastructure solutions group, however, provided a bright spot, with revenue surging 34% year-over-year, fueled by robust AI-related demand. Meanwhile, consumer revenue slumped 18% to $2 billion.
Looking ahead, Dell projected fourth-quarter revenue in the range of $24 billion to $25 billion, missing the average analyst estimate of $25.57 billion. The subdued outlook, coupled with weakness in key segments, spurred investor concerns, leading to the sharp decline in Dell’s stock price.
