Cooper-Standard Holdings Inc. (CPS) on Q1 2021 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

Operator: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Cooper-Standard First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. During the presentation, all participants will be in listen-only mode. Following company prepared comments; we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded and the webcast will be available on the Cooper-Standard website for replay later today. I would now like to turn the call over to Roger Hendriksen, Director of Investor Relations. Roger Hendriksen: Thanks Maddy and good morning everyone. We really appreciate you taking the time to join our call this morning. The members of our leadership team who will be speaking with you on the call this morning are Jeff Edwards, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Jon Banas, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I need to remind you that this presentation contains forward-looking statements. While these statements are made based on current factual information and certain assumptions and plans that management currently believes to be reasonable. These statements do involve risks and uncertainties. For more information on forward-looking statements, we ask that you refer to slide 3 of this presentation and the company's statements included in periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. This presentation also contains non-GAAP financial measures; reconciliations of the non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in the appendix to the presentation. So with those formalities out of the way, I'll turn the call over to Jeff Edwards. Jeff Edwards: Thanks Roger, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate the opportunity to review our first quarter results and provide an update on our ongoing strategic initiatives and outlook. To begin on slide 5, we provide some highlights or key indicators of how our operations performed in the quarter in the critical areas of providing quality products and services to our customers and keeping our employees safe, we continue to perform at world class levels. At the end of the quarter 98% of our customer scorecards for product quality were green and 98% were green for launch. Most importantly the safety performance of our plants continues to be outstanding. Through the first three months of the year, our total safety incident rate was just 0.45 per 200,000 hours worked below the world-class rate of 0.57. I would like to specifically recognize and thank our teams at the 44 Cooper-Standard plants that had a perfect safety record of zero reported incidents in the first quarter. We are continually striving for zero safety incidents at all of our plants and facilities and these 44 are leading the way and clearly demonstrate that achieving our goal of zero incidents is possible. From a financial perspective, our results were nearly on track with our original operating plan for the quarter despite the number of external challenges. Semiconductor shortages, historic winter storms and power outages and disruption of natural gas and other commodity supply issues resulted in abrupt changes to production schedules that impacted the volumes on some of our key platforms. Jon Banas: Thanks Jeff and good morning everyone. In the next few slides I'll provide some detail on our financial results for the first quarter and comment on our balance sheet, cash flow and liquidity, and capital allocation priorities. On slide nine, we show a summary of our results for the first quarter with comparisons to the prior year. First quarter, 2021 sales were $669 million, up 2.1% versus the first quarter of 2020. Improved volume and mix, including the non-recurrence of prior year COVID-related shutdowns and foreign exchange were positive factors. These were offset by sales loss to the divestiture of certain unprofitable businesses in Europe and our legacy India business. Excluding the impact of the divestitures and foreign exchange, organic sales increased by approximately 6.3%. Notably, our year-over-year growth rate in the quarter exceeded market growth in each of our three major regions. Gross profit for the quarter was $68.3 million, an increase of 58.3% compared to the same period a year ago. Gross profit margin increased 360 basis points year-over-year to 10.2%. We see this improvement in profitability as a clear indication, that our driving value plan is gaining traction. Adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter was $38.5 million or 5.8% of sales, compared to $8.3 million or 1.3% of sales in the first quarter of 2020. The significant year-over-year improvement in, adjusted EBITDA was driven primarily by improved operating efficiency, continuing optimization of our supply chain, lower SGA&E expense, and improve volume and mix net of customer price adjustments. Typical inflationary pressures, on items such as wages rent and utilities were a negative offset. On a U.S. GAAP basis, we incurred a net loss for the quarter of $33.9 million compared to a net loss of $110.6 million in the first quarter of 2020. The excluding restructuring expense and other special items as well as their associated income tax impact adjusted net loss for the first quarter of 2021 was $14.5 million or $0.85 per diluted share, compared to an adjusted net loss of $36.5 million or $2.16 per diluted share in the first quarter of 2020. With respect to capital expenditures our spending in the first quarter was $38.6 million, compared to $50.6 million in the same period a year ago. We are continuing our focus on disciplined capital investment in our business. And we remain committed to keeping CapEx, below 5% of sales for the full year. Jeff Edwards: Thanks Jon. To wrap-up our discussion this morning, I'd like to provide an update with some additional detail on our near-term strategies, to diversify our business leverage growth in the electric vehicle market. And our outlook related to our ROIC improvement goals. So please turn to slide 13. Our innovation and diversification strategy remains important to us. And we continue to make progress to improve and expand our businesses in markets outside of automotive. That progress has been slower than we planned over the past year, given the need to refocus on our core business during a period of extreme volatility and market uncertainty. Over the long run, however we believe these types of industry, dislocations are precisely why diversification is an important part of our strategic growth. We continue to make progress within our advanced technology group to leverage our material science and manufacturing expertise in diverse industrial markets that complement our automotive business. In our Applied Materials Science business we've successfully concluded the technology development phase with a key footwear customer and we expect to begin commercial discussions soon. We're in the commercial phase for building material products. As with many new technology introductions, we expect sales contracts to start small and increase over time as market acceptance grows. Further technology development will continue to focus primarily on applications for the footwear industry, which is where we see the best near-term opportunities. In our industrial and Specialty Group, customer demand for our products overall remains steady. Although, our sales within the aviation industry continues to be soft. As we move beyond the effects of global pandemic and demand for air travel returns, we also expect to see a rebound in demand for our aviation related products. Staffing levels at our ISG plants are starting to stabilize, which is helping improve productivity. We expect this will help reduce our order backlog over the next few quarters. We remain optimistic about our opportunities to grow in diverse markets over the longer term. Operator: Thank you. Our first question comes from Mike Ward with Benchmark. Please go ahead sir. Mike Ward: Thanks. Good morning everyone. Jeff Edwards: Good morning, Mike. Jon Banas: Good morning, Mike. Mike Ward: Jeff usually volatility in production schedules is just so disruptive to supplier earnings. And it seems like you guys held up extremely well given what was going on especially at Ford. Can you talk about some of the things you did maybe to mitigate some of the impact? Jeff Edwards: Yes, good morning. Thanks for the question, Mike. I think as we worked our way through this our operating teams as you saw stay very focused on taking the costs out that they plan to take out heading into the quarter and they executed on that list very well. The second approach is always when you have customers that shut down plants, we flex our costs quickly. These plans are prepared in advance so that as our volumes go down, whether it's communicated or whether it isn't our teams react accordingly. And so as a result of managing it, I think both in the long term attacking the cost reductions that we had planned they executed extremely well. And then they didn't allow the distractions to slow us down as it relates to flexing the operating cost of the business. So those were the two reasons that I would give you. Mike Ward: And the communications as well have to been phenomenal going back and forth. Jeff Edwards: I give the customers a lot of credit too, Mike. I mean, they're in constant communication with our plants and with our operating team and while we have some extra inventory as many of you probably noticed in the quarter a lot of that is due to these volumes that we were -- we had on the release and then phone calls would come in and suggest that they weren't going to build those vehicles. So, a little bit of inventory up in the quarter, but obviously, the second half you've heard from our customers like we have we expect it to be much better. Mike Ward: Much better. On Page 13, you talked about successfully completing a technology development phase with a key footwear customer. How long was that phase? And what does that mean exactly? Jeff Edwards: Yes. So as we've discussed before, the technical phase in our language means that our engineers working with their engineers to develop formulations that pass as many tests as they need us to pass. And so those typically take over a year this one is no different. And now we've achieved the green light related to passing the test. And so then you get into the commercial negotiations in terms of how much we're going to get paid. Mike Ward: So now are there three footwear companies that have passed this technical the development phase? Jeff Edwards: No we're just -- the one that I've mentioned here on Slide 13 that you talked about that's for one particular footwear company. And the other footwear companies we continue to make progress as well. But the one on Page 13 was just referencing a specific milestone that we achieved with one. Mike Ward: With that one okay. On Page 14, you talked about the EV business and $100 million of new business in 2020. What was the revenue base in 2020? I think you said you had 16 of the top 25 selling EVs, what type of revenue base are we talking about from 2020? Is that $100 million of revenue? Is it doubling over the next couple of years that what you're looking at? Jeff Edwards: Yes. We haven't given that detail Mike, but as I've said in the past the best way to think about this with Cooper-Standard is that our content per vehicle is really trending up. So in other words, we're selling ceiling like we would on any of the drivetrains, but the fluid components within EV are driving more content than they were on the internal combustion engine. So that's the message, and hybrid is even better because you're heating and cooling dual systems. So that's about as much information as we've applied. So it's a lot of new business. Mike Ward: Right. So the new business is coming from not necessarily new applications, but increased content on existing applications or some of the applications? Jeff Edwards: No. In many cases you have new models, new platforms. So it's going to drive an organic increase in our business. In other cases, we obviously are still really servicing all three drivetrains as you know. But what we're talking about when we separate EV and we're going to be doing this each release now we're going to be tracking the EV sales and the content associated with that versus our other core business and we're doing that internally and we'll start sharing more of that externally as we go forward. And obviously, we can't tell you the platforms because these are future models. So we don't do that but we can't talk about at least the customers that we're serving and tell you that many of them are new vehicles for them that we're winning. Mike Ward: Beautiful. Thank you. Thank you very much Jeff Edwards: Sure. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Farricielli with Cantor Fitzgerald. Joseph Farricielli: Good morning. Thanks for taking the call. Two questions. One if I look on slide 10. Some of the cost savings really specifically SGA&E. That $10 million how much of it is going to carry to future quarters? How much is maybe related still to COVID savings? And then one follow-up from there. Jon Banas: Okay. Hi, Joe. Jon Banas, here. Thanks for the question. The SGA&E savings that you're seeing we believe are sustainable. As we we've been continuing to work to align our overall cost structure to the smaller revenue base of the company. These are sustainable and what we feel is long-term savings and run rate levels for our SGA&E expense. And I think we've mentioned in the past on previous calls our target for SGA&E over the long-term is to continue to be below 9% of sales. And we -- you'll see more as we progress throughout the year as some of the actions we've taken and some of the initiatives we've got in place are going to develop savings opportunities and ramp up throughout the rest of this year. Joseph Farricielli: Okay. Great. Thanks. Great color. And then the next question is trying to get also a peek into what the OEs are doing. With this chip shortage you see different product lines or model lines rather being shut down and it's my assumption looking for that confirmation that the OEs are focusing under more profitable lines and didn't know if that follows through for you as well that the idled production may be lower-margin business anyways. So the idling may actually be -- or could be a good thing. Jeff Edwards: Yes. This is Jeff. It's a good question. What we are hearing is that obviously trucks and SUVs I'm talking right now about the North American market of course trucks and SUVs and some of the more popular crossovers are going to get priority as we go forward. Obviously, the Cooper-Standard revenue is dramatically influenced by trucks and SUVs and crossovers in the North American market over 80% of our revenue is in that segment. So we do believe that that's what will happen because we've heard our customers talk about that just like you have and we're hopeful that if we're shutting down certain segments that it's passenger cars if you're in Cooper-Standard both for the trucks and the SUVs every day. Joseph Farricielli: Okay. That’s great. Thank you for that color. Jeff Edwards: Sure. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Brian DiRubbio with Baird. Brian DiRubbio: Good morning. A couple of questions for you. Maybe first starting with more materials. John are you on LIFO or FIFO inventory accounting? Jon Banas: We are on FIFO. Brian DiRubbio: Okay. So we're going to start seeing that impact, I guess, you already indicated though really in the second quarter? Jon Banas: Well, what we talked about Brian is we are going to start to see commodity inflation ramp-up in the next couple of quarters as we look towards not only what our suppliers are telling us, but what the IHS kind of forecast is for certain commodities that we're exposed to. So the good news here in Q1 that was moderate. It was only about $2 million of headwind that we faced. But as you look back to what we thought the whole year would look like we were facing about $15 million when we entered the year of commodity headwinds. And that is almost doubled now. We think it's going to be closer to $25 million to $30 million of headwinds. So we're working to offset as much of those as we can through supply chain initiatives and other negotiated recoveries but we're going to start facing that pressure here Q2 forward. Brian DiRubbio: And just remind me how often can you go back to the manufacturers to reset some of the pricing? Jon Banas: Yes. Certain of our customers we have index contracts with various components and/or raw materials. Others we do negotiations on a regular basis. But typically that those indices it's not a significant portion of our raw material buy and those reset it once a quarter. But in times of extreme volatility, we'll be more apt to approach the customer for remuneration on rising prices as we're seeing here today. Brian DiRubbio: Okay. And then switching gears you talked about potentially pulling up -- $40 million, excuse me, of cost out of Europe. Europe -- I mean as everybody knows very difficult to hold costs out. What would be the upfront costs to achieve that $40 million in savings? Jon Banas: What we're looking at right now Brian is already included in our restructuring forecast for the year. So we came in the year thinking we would spend cash of about $50 million to $55 million and a good portion of that was related to Europe. That estimate has -- fortunately has come down a bit to closer to $40 million to $45 million. And you can think about in terms of that being over half related to the European footprint. Brian DiRubbio: And will we see any spillover to next year on the cash cost? Jon Banas: Yes, but nothing as significant as we're seeing here. Some of the restructuring costs or payments that we're going to make we've negotiated to spread out over a series of years, but you won't see a significant outflow like the $40 million to $45 million that we're talking about this year. Brian DiRubbio: Perfect. Thanks for the time. Jon Banas: Thanks, Brian. Operator: Our next question comes from the line of John Levin with Levin Capital. John Levin: Yes. I just would like to clarify really a follow-up to Mike Wards question. You originally announced fit you had a relationship with the Chinese shoe manufacturer. Was the commercial progress with that manufacturer or with some other possible manufacturer in the world? Jeff Edwards: All right, John, this is Jeff. Good morning. We did.. John Levin: Hi, Jeff. Congratulations and how you're doing Jeff? Its really 4Q… Jeff Edwards: Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. We didn't disclose John which continent and for obvious reasons because we have a nondisclosure with each of the manufacturers that we're working with. So at least at this point in time we're not able to talk about who. John Levin: Yes, I agree. But if I maybe just push on that subject and I appreciate you calling on me and I'm glad to withdraw the question. But there is a huge investment inference if it is some place outside of the one company that you originally announced the contract with? So that would be just an inference. You don't have to mention the name, but if we're a different customer it would validate what's going on. That's the drift of the question which is really the same question Mike Ward was asking I believe. Second… Jeff Edwards: I understand the question John, but we're not able to suggest ankle or any other word who it may be. So we'll have to save that for another day. We're certainly hopeful that in the future here we are able to provide more details around that. I am hopeful that we'll be able to do that. We're asking to be able to do that. And when we get that permission we would be happy to disclose it. John Levin: Great. I am neither Donald Trump nor Joe Biden, but I infer the -- since you mentioned the first Chinese company, there's something else working out here that we should be hopeful about. Thank you. Jeffrey Edwards: You bet. Have a great day. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Josh Taykowski with Crédit Suisse. Josh Taykowski: Hey. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Just a few from my side. I guess, starting on the margin side, it looks like profitability, certainly, better year-over-year in some of the regions that have historically had issues, Europe and Asia. But just looked at the whipsawing a bit, on a sequential basis from 4Q. So just trying to understand that a bit better. So I guess would it be possible to maybe get into some more specific puts and takes, I guess, maybe starting in Europe first. And then Asia, on what happened from a margin perspective in 1Q versus 4Q last year? Jeffrey Edwards: Yes, Josh, let me start and take you around the world. Europe was actually a situation where performed more favorably than we thought coming into the year. Volumes held up very well in the industry, despite the global chip shortage and certainly COVID pandemic environment. And related to the overall production in the region, it was down about 0.9%. But for our mix of vehicle platforms and customer base, we were actually positive territory. And so, we outpaced the market and we were just a hair shy of 0.5% positive of production year-over-year. So that was good news and we've been ongoing monitoring whether that is sustainable in the overall industry there. And so far, things do look to be more consistent and stabilized than they certainly are here in the North America region. In Asia, the overall market was up about 46%, if you include the whole region. And specifically China was up about 77%. But in both cases, we also outperformed the region and we were up about 50.5% for the overall Asia Pacific locale. And in China, in particular, we're up 85.5%. So about 1.1 times the market there. So, clearly, a good year-over-year comp. Asia was hit harder in the first quarter. Certainly, China was, with the pandemic last year. And so we're outpacing that market and we can see that with the global customer base that we're more weighted towards in that region, that we're performing well overall. North America, I think you appreciate the story there. And market is down about 4.5%. However, our production levels and volumes were up about 1%. So, again, favorable to the market. So overall, running about 6.3% globally in terms of organic growth rate when you have carve out FX from that. So clearly, the volatility here in Q2 is of a concern globally. We're obviously monitoring daily, as far as what our customers are telling us around the world in those shutdowns. So you're seeing the same news we are. And as Jeff said earlier, our customers been very, very good about communicating those production schedule changes to us, so we can react and plan accordingly. Josh Taykowski: Got it. And I guess, I was asking more so -- completely understand the volume story, kind of, regionally. I was asking more on a sequential basis, just looking at the supplemental info that you put out, which is much appreciated by region, the EBITDA margins. I guess taking Asia, for example, 4Q was dramatically better than what we've seen in previous quarters, 12.8% margin versus 1Q this year, coming in right around 3% margin. So just trying to understand a bit better what's kind of driving that kind of pretty gigantic swing, just on a sequential basis? Jeffrey Edwards: Yes. What we talked about in Q4 related to Asia, in particular, China. There were still some government incentives in Q4 that really helped overall production levels. And also related to our profitability, is finalization of negotiations on pricing matters as we close out each particular year. So in Q4 you saw an elevated level of production and a full running of our plant productions, which drives cost absorption for us, to drive margins up, as well as negotiated savings as on pricing matters for the year. So that kind of explains the delta. And year-end is -- Q4 is typically the quarter where those negotiations finalize. And you'll see always some impact there. And also, on the purchasing side for our supplies, we have contracts that allow for rebates once certain production levels are met. And that typically also occurs in Q4. So between favorable pricing activities, rebates on the supply side and just the overall production levels, that was driving some good performance there. When you look at the ramp back up here in Q1, for Asia, in particular, clearly some of those things are more sustained and are spread out throughout the rest of the year. And as we've talked in the past, we see that throwing out the Q2 deterioration that we're going to see because of the overall production environment, we'll see sequential growth in EBITDA margins throughout the rest of this year. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mike Cazayoux with KDP Investments. Mike Cazayoux: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. It basically was the same as the previous analyst; I was just looking at the sequentials. Europe also had decent EBIT -- decent contribution in the fourth quarter and then turned negative this quarter. So maybe, if you could address that as well. Thank you. Jeffrey Edwards: Sure, Mark. Similar story there, within the Europe environment. I don't have the walk-in front of me on sequential to be frank. But it's a similar story as far as overall negotiation levels, purchasing rebates and the ramp-up of production in Q4. The European market, I said, we're seeing positive news here even in Q1. So that effect kind of was starting to build in Q4 of last year. And so the market performance overall returning to a level of normalcy, if you will, for Europe was a good news story for us in Q4 of last year. Mike Cazayoux: Thank you. Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Bob Amenta with JPMorgan. Bob Amenta: Yes. Hi, thanks. Just a couple of quick follow-ups. One of the earlier analysts asked about the concept of the fords of the world focusing on the higher value vehicles. Along those lines, I would imagine your products don't involve much in the way of sensors. I mean they may tie into sensors but are you seeing or hearing anything we're -- there are vehicles being built with your products on them, but yet they're not being complete vehicles. They're just kind of setting them aside. I mean such that even affords production or some of this stuff is down for end vehicles 50%. Maybe there's partially built vehicles that your products will have far as your concern. That's a vehicle that's been built if you know what I'm getting at. Jeff Edwards: Yes. This is Jeff. That's true. There's quite a bit of data out there that shows how many vehicles are parked in some sense of waiting for sensors so that the build can be completed. However, when you have assembly plants that are completely shut down like we've experienced as well, and we expect to continue to experience here over the coming weeks based on what we've been told. Obviously those aren't being built. So, while we don't have an exact figure because we don't have access to it. There has been quite a bit written about it recently. And so those products would -- or those vehicles that are partially bill would have our products on it. And the other answer to your question is, yes, we don't rely on the microchips in our products. Bob Amenta: Okay. And then just lastly, you guys made the comment that basically at this point you're kind of affirming if you will for now in any way guidance for the year. When you say within the previous announced range or whatever, I'm assuming you're talking revenues and EBITDA, or you're more focused on EBITDA, or is there any -- is that just a generic statement? I mean obviously not focused on EBITDA in the -- where I'm coming at it. Jeff Edwards: Yes. This is Jeff. Just to be clear, it's both. So, we've guided both. Bob Amenta: Okay. That’s pretty impressive. So, okay, we’ll look for the update next quarter. Thanks. Jeff Edwards: Okay. Operator: Your next question -- last question -- next question comes from the line of Taykowski of Credit Suisse. Josh Taykowski: Thank you, guys. Sorry, I got cut-off on the last line. But just wanted to follow-up… Jeff Edwards: Yes. We’re doing that there, Josh. Josh Taykowski: I guess just to continue the similar line of questioning, as I was before. I was just wondering how come you don't see as it relates to commercial settlements, et cetera, coming in at the end of the year. Why don't you see that same kind of lumpiness, I guess you should say, you could call it in North America that it's always been pretty stable kind of in that low teens type margin profile? Even on a sequential basis, I think North America was 11.9% in 4Q versus actually up 30 bps in the first quarter of this year. So, I just wanted to parse that out a little bit more. Jeff Edwards: Yes, Josh, welcome back. The North America story is -- it all depends on the customer negotiations and overall business plan, if you will, for -- and it's actually a global comment. So, it all depends on how the previous year went and the performance and relative scorecard you have with that particular customer in that point in time. So, it could just be that the North American-based customers we were green on those scorecards, so there wasn't a significant level of variability or lumpiness as you called it in Q4 versus Q1 of this year. So, it really all depends on -- also on the timing of new business awards, and whether we are looking to look more favorable on overall scorecards to win that new business. So it's the proverbial. It depends on timing of negotiations but then also new business awards. That will drive when we agree to and then ultimately record on pricing accruals like that. Josh Taykowski: Got it. Fair enough. And then last one for me. Just -- I know in the past, we've talked about the strategy of potentially going back renegotiating with customers and potentially getting more contractual indexing in your contracts. So, I guess I was wondering if there's any updates to share there any progress being made? And I guess lastly just a reminder of what percent of your business is indexed today in this kind of rising price environment that we find ourselves in. Jeff Edwards: Josh, this is Jeff. And I would tell you that we are making progress with both customer and suppliers in terms of indexing. And we basically had told you before that we were trying to double the amount that we have indexed with our supply base, which we feel confident that we're going to achieve that over the course of these negotiations and we'll probably give you more specifics around that during the next quarter call, I would say but we are making progress towards that original goal. And then with the customers, it's obviously more complicated. We are making progress there. We feel very good, especially with our larger customers where we sit and those negotiations continue to happen as well. And in fact, they're helping us quite a bit here, as Jon mentioned before, with the inflation that we're experiencing particularly with some of our petroleum-based products. We find ourselves in a good position with some of our larger customers as we work our way through the year. So, we'll come back in both cases and give you some updates in terms of how we've moved the needle and what percentage of our business with the customer base and what percentage with our supplier base once we finalize those negotiations hopefully here in the next couple of months. Josh Taykowski: Okay, fair enough. I’ll look forward to the update. That’s it for me. Thanks. Jeff Edwards: Thanks, Josh. Operator: It appears that there are no more questions. I would now like to turn the call back over to Roger Hendriksen. Roger Hendriksen: Okay. Thanks everybody for your participation in the call this morning. Great questions, and if there are other open items that you'd like to address or certainly be available this afternoon and all of next week, feel free to reach out at any time. Thanks again for participating. This will conclude our call. Have a good weekend. Operator: This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
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