ASGN Incorporated (ASGN) on Q2 2021 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

Operator: Hello and welcome to the ASGN Incorporated Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It’s now my pleasure to turn the call over to, Kimberly Esterkin, Managing Director at ADDO Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Kimberly. Kimberly Esterkin: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us today for ASGN’s second quarter 2021 conference call. With me are Ted Hanson, President and Chief Executive Officer; Rand Blazer, President of Apex Systems; George Wilson, President of ECS; and Ed Pierce, Chief Financial Officer. Ted Hanson: Thank you, Kimberly, and thank you for joining ASGN’s second quarter 2021 earnings call. ASGN reported very strong results for the second quarter, and I am pleased to report that all is progressing as planned from both a client demand and company execution standpoint. The market is strong, the demand for our services is growing, and ASGN is capturing our share of the market and more. Were it not for the incredible performance of all of our employees, serving our clients and contributing to key initiatives and acquisitions, we would not be able to post such strong results. As you recall, at the beginning of July, we announced that we will now be reporting two business segments, the Commercial Segment, which includes Apex Systems, Creative Circle and CyberCoders, and the Federal Government Segment, our ECS business. On today’s call, I will speak to these two segments, which represent our continuing operations. Ed Pierce, our CFO, will discuss Oxford, or discontinued operations, in conjunction with the overall financial results and Q3 guidance later in today’s call. Revenues for the second quarter for continuing operations totaled $974.9 million, up 17.2% year-over-year and above the high-end of our revised guidance range set forth in our announcement regarding the divestiture of our Oxford business. Adjusted EBITDA of $119.3 million also came in above the top of our revised guidance range for the second quarter, improving 25.2% from the prior-year period. Ed Pierce: Thanks, Ted. Good afternoon, everyone. Before commenting on our financial performance for the quarter, I will first make a few comments on the changes in our financial reporting since last quarter. As most of you are aware, we announced earlier this month that we had entered into an agreement to sell our Oxford business for $525 million, which equates to estimated proceeds, net of income taxes, of approximately $415 million. As a result of the decision to divest Oxford, results for that business are no longer included in continuing operations, but reported as discontinued operations. This pertains not only to current and future periods, but also to our historical periods. Consequently, we have revised our historical financial results to report the Oxford business as discontinued operations. The revised historical results are included in our supplemental earning materials that can be found on our website. We have also changed our segment reporting to remove Oxford as a separate segment, and have combined the CyberCoders division with the Apex Segment, which we have renamed the Commercial Segment. The ECS Segment has been renamed the Federal Government Segment. As Ted commented, our financial performance was well above our initial guidance estimates for the quarter and above the high-end of our recently updated guidance. These results reflected the double-digit growth of our Commercial Segment and solid growth in our Federal Government Segment. Ted Hanson: Thanks, Ed. These are exciting times at ASGN, and I do not envision us slowing down any time soon. Since the start of 2020, more than two-thirds of which took place during a global pandemic, we have successfully acquired six companies and made the strategic decision to sell our Oxford business, freeing up both capital and management bandwidth to focus sharply on building a high-growth, high-margin diversified IT services and solutions business in the commercial and government markets. Case in point, our consulting business, including both commercial consulting and ECS, totaled $406.7 million or approximately 41.7% of consolidated revenues for the second quarter. Our acquisition strategy, which has contributed to this evolution of our business toward higher margin, high growth, high value work is succeeding, and we have positioned ourselves to think even bigger. Still, we remain measured when it comes to M&A and in doing so follow a three-pronged approach to acquisitions. I’d like to discuss this approach today. The first prong of our three-part acquisition strategy is making strategic tuck-in acquisitions of companies sub-$100 million in annual revenues with accretive growth rates and EBITDA margins that provide us with new capabilities, new solutions and or new contracts in high demand by our customers. Each of the six acquisitions we completed since the beginning of 2020 are examples of this strategy in action. As I mentioned earlier, it’s not just the intrinsic value of the standalone businesses we acquire that add value to our company, it’s also the expected revenue synergies we can achieve by leveraging their capabilities across the breadth of our portfolio. The tuck-in acquisitions we have made to-date are anticipated to generate higher growth rates and higher cash flow than what is now classified as our discontinued operations. In addition, given the strength of our balance sheet and the near completion of our Oxford sale, we are developing strategic tuck-in opportunities at a larger scale, think greater than $100 million in revenue. Like the first prong of our strategy, acquisitions completed as part of the second prong of our strategy would be accretive to growth rates and margins and also add new contracts, new solutions or new capabilities to our Commercial and Federal Government Segments. Finally, taking our strategy one step further, the third prong of our approach to M&A is to acquire standalone businesses that fit under the ASGN umbrella, with adjacencies in IT services and solutions, but that are not in conflict with our current offerings and which can generate revenue synergies that help fulfill our long-term growth strategy. An example would be our acquisition of ECS in 2018, a business which has now grown to over $1 billion in annual revenues much quicker than our initial expectations. We continue to make ground on our strategic growth path, and everything we have done in the past 90 days further supports our mission to be a leading provider of IT services and solutions to the commercial and government markets. With the strong resurgence of our commercial business and the stability and growth of our federal government business, we are confident that we have now taken the appropriate actions to position ASGN for long-term sustainable growth in the markets we serve. Following the completion of multiple acquisitions, the divestiture of Oxford and the re-segmentation of our business into the Commercial and Federal Government Segments, we believe now is the ideal time to reset expectations and share with the investment community an update on our long-term vision, strategy and goals. With that said, we look forward to hosting a Virtual Analyst Day this September 14. Additional details on this Analyst Day will be announced over the coming weeks. Thank you again for your time this afternoon. This concludes our prepared remarks for today. On behalf of our entire company and Board of Directors, we appreciate your continued support of ASGN. We will now open up the call to your questions. Operator? Operator: Thank you. We’ll now be conducting a question-and-answer session. Our first question today is coming from Maggie Nolan from William Blair. Your line is now live. Maggie Nolan: Thank you. Congrats on all the strategic changes here and the good performance this quarter. I had a high-level question, with the sale of Oxford, you’ve kind of moved away from some of the kind of high-end niche services for the small and mid-market accounts. And in the past, you’ve talked about this focus on increasing penetration at large accounts on the commercial side. So can you talk us through how you’re assessing high potential accounts? And then are there any details that you can share with us that illustrate how penetration at key accounts has trended? Ted Hanson: Well, Maggie, first of all, thanks for the question. And I’ll let Rand kind of jump in with me here. Really Oxford had become, while it had an IT competitive business, it also had a lot of other things; engineering, life sciences, healthcare, areas where we didn’t really practice. And as you noted, they really were serving the middle market and smaller accounts and providing these services. And so we believe in large accounts, enterprise accounts both in commercial and gov because they’re the largest spenders on IT. And so we thought it would be in our best interest to stay more focused on those larger accounts and providing higher-end IT services than it would be to invest capital in some of the areas that Oxford was practicing. Oxford has a great business. They’ll go off and do really good things, but I think that our comfort level is here. It’s kind of staying with this strategy about being more IT-focused coming up the pyramid and providing more value and doing that with large accounts. And by way of example, you’ve seen that here this quarter with a great growth rates and consulting services, which is really about our commercial Fortune 500 accounts pulling us in to do higher value work and more because that’s where the bulk of the spend is. Rand, would you add anything to that? Rand Blazer: No, I think that’s good. And Maggie, we grow, our top accounts are growing at a high-teens rate and our penetration of those top accounts across all five industries that we report are increasing as Ted mentioned. So we look not only at how many top accounts do we have and are we expanding the portfolio and deepening the relationship, but are we growing consulting work with that account base as well. And all those numbers are pointing upwards and that’s what we want. Maggie Nolan: Okay, great. And then you highlighted the delivery center in Mexico again, and that’s obviously been a successful area for the company. So I’m curious, what are your future plans for your geographic delivery footprint in the consulting business on a go-forward basis and just considering kind of the current IT talent environment? Ted Hanson: Rand? Rand Blazer: Well, I’ll start. Maggie, I think, look, we’re very focused on our account base. And so when our account base has a requirement, we want to step up to it. What we’ve seen is, as we’ve mentioned in the remarks, a high degree of DevOps work, particularly around cloud, cloud applications, integration of systems, dashboards. We use the Mexican development center for a lot of that DevOps work. So it’s just been very timely that we acquired that a couple of years ago and was right there now is we’re seeing a crescendo in that kind of work. We want to continue to expand our footprint in Mexico. We found that to be a good base for us but servicing U.S. accounts, okay? And we are very focused on U.S. accounts. If U.S. accounts take us somewhere else geographically, based on the strategic importance of that account, we’ll step up and support them and we have done that. We do some of our work with some of our biggest accounts overseas, but it’s more what I would say is specific to the account and specific to their initiatives, their global initiatives. We’re not trying to, I think, globalize our consulting practice, at least not at this point. Maggie Nolan: Okay. Rand Blazer: Ted, you want to add? Ted Hanson: Yes, I think that was well put. And I would just say that, maybe finish with Maggie, I mean, obviously these large accounts have had captive workforces in India in different ways offshore for a long time. But a lot of the benefits they find from nearshore work here, which is great talent, same time zone, good communication, good collaboration back and forth real-time has been a great winner here. And so I think to Rand’s point, I think in the prepared remarks, I mean, we’ve doubled that workforce and we’re going to continue to invest in it because there’s a great labor pool there. And this is a real winning offering, if you will, with our client base. Maggie Nolan: Definitely a very hot market. So good to hear. Thanks for all the commentary, Ted and Rand, and congrats. Ted Hanson: Thanks. Operator: Thank you. Next question is coming from Gary Bisbee from Bank of America Securities. Your line is now live. Gary Bisbee: Hey guys. Good afternoon. So, I guess, the first one, I just have to ask, help us understand the consulting growth, right? You had more than 35 percentage points to year-over-year growth, the comp was maybe 10 points easier. So a lot of that had nothing to do with it. And I think sequentially, it was up more than 20%. Like, I don’t think there was incrementally a lot more M&A than last quarter because the most recent deal is more Q3. So like what drove such a big step up? And how do we think about trajectory in the next couple of quarters given that step up? Ted Hanson: So, Gary, I’ll just – I’ll set the table here and then turn over to Rand, but about the same contribution in revenues from acquisitions in the second quarter as it was in the first in the Commercial Segment, if you will. And remember, the strategy here is not a new service to a new account. This is pulling together. This is pulling, hiring consultative services across our existing account portfolio, where we already have years and decades of client relationships, the ability to walk the hall and do business. And we had the client pulling us into these things. So the table is set, if you will, for this to really work in terms of revenue synergies. And then, Rand, where is it coming from? Rand, you’re on mute. Rand Blazer: Yes, I’m sorry. Gary, let me comment also that our performance in this past quarter is not only strong year-over-year, but also, we’ve lapped 2019. So not many companies report against performance in 2019, but we have lapped it. We’re doing better. We’re growing high single digits against 2019 in the commercial sector. So that’s a good mark. How are we doing it? I think Ted keynoted it, but look, I think we have a diversified set of very strong accounts that we have very intimate knowledge and awareness of their operating worlds, what their competitive factors are. And we’ve built a strong solution base in some of the key areas like DevOps, cloud, data analysis and now some enterprise solutions, not just organically growing these solution capabilities, but also made some, I think pretty good acquisitions over the last couple of years through Intersys, through LeapFrog and now through the Infor Business of Avaap. And then third, we have the ability to staff these engagements, and that’s where the strength of the staffing firm coupled with the consulting business really makes a difference. The fact that we not only have strong accounts and strong solutions, but we have the ability to step up and staff these engagements. I think it’s all helping us as we grow here. And it’s a good formula, it’s working well. As Ted said, we are trying to continue to penetrate this work with our existing staff. But if those account relationships and the insights we have that put us in good position, and then it’s a matter of stepping up and executing the work. Gary Bisbee: Great. And then just a follow-up on the more traditional assignment business. Ted, if I heard the growth rates you gave for Apex, Creative Circle and CyberCoders, they were all faster than the 12% year-over-year that business grew. So what am I missing? Were those not year-over-year growth rates? Or what color can you give us on that business? Ted Hanson: Ed, can you address that one, on the assignment growth rates? Rand Blazer: Well, Ted, I can. Do you want me to make comment real quickly? I think our overall growth rate in commercial sector is 20.3%, consulting up 59.5% and the staffing component of a low double-digit number. So all of that, those two coupled together give us a 20.3% growth rate. Did that answer your question, Gary? Gary Bisbee: Well, I thought I heard Apex up 16%, Creative Circle up 39% and CyberCoders up 59%. And maybe Apex includes the consulting in that. So the assignment… Ted Hanson: Yes. Yes, it is. The Apex has based on percent. Gary Bisbee: Okay. All right. And so I guess what’s going on that then, I think, implies either still a decline or much slower growth in sort of traditional assignment engagements at Apex, is that right? And if so, is that by design? Or any color there to help think through that traditional. Ted Hanson: I mean, I would say it’s more consistent, Gary. I mean, it’s best on we can track, it’s better by a few points in the SA published numbers. We’ve been getting kind of pre-COVID kind of high single-digit growth rates, if you will, on the staffing part of the business. Now the way we report this so that you get a flavor of assignment for Creative, CyberCoders and Apex, we can still that number, like Rand said, is 12% here. So I think that’s fairly consistent. Look, we’re going after the whole market, Gary. So we’re not perturbating one over the other. We’re in all of the programs from an IT staffing standpoint of these large enterprise accounts. And we’re also in their consulting programs, right? Or if they bundle it, we’re obviously have access to both. So we’re flying at all this. We’re not cherry picking one over the other, and that’s really what’s going to make a difference here because I mean, look, we’ve got kind of a favorite spot. We’re the number two player in that U.S. IT staffing marketplace, and it enables what we’re doing in consulting. And so the two kind of work together in harmony like that. Gary Bisbee: Okay. All right, fair enough. Thanks. Operator: Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Tobey Sommer from Truist Securities. Your line is now live. Tobey Sommer: Thanks. I was curious about your M&A strategy. And I wonder if you could delve into it a little bit. Is the third prong sort of the larger opportunities? Could those represent a new reporting segment for the company? And then maybe if you could talk to your comfort level in terms of leverage particularly in light of that third prong? thanks. Ted Hanson: Yes. So they could be larger. They often are, although I would say if there was something that was different that support itself in the marketplace and was not in conflict with our federal government or commercial. It could stand alone even a bit smaller. So it’s a little about revenue size, but not as much, whether its own reporting segment. I mean, that’s a technical question, that would be, peers call as we go here. I mean I think what we’re trying to do is find the right acquisitions to serve the market. And then Tobey, the last part of your question? Tobey Sommer: Comfort on leverage because if you do something sizable... Ted Hanson: Yes, yes. So look, we, I think five times in the past have levered up to about 3.8 times total debt to EBITDA and quickly within kind of 18 to 24 months have been able to bring that back down to 2.5 or below total leverage because of the great free cash flow characteristics of these businesses. So we, again, would be comfortable doing that. I would tell you, I don’t think it’s required because we’ve – this is a unique position for us. In the past, we never have been sitting here with $375 million on the balance sheet and then a divestiture, which is going to add net another $400 million. So we’re going to have about $800 million to $900 million on the balance sheet here as we go forward. And so I just don’t believe it’s going to take that kind of leverage in order to get done the things that we’re looking at. But if it did, we would be totally comfortable with it. Tobey Sommer: Okay. On the federal side, could you talk about what the relevant growth rate might be by your estimation in spending on AI and machine learning, sort of the relevant veins of spending that are sort of pertinent to your federal business? We often find that investors struggle with looking at a headline budget and then parsing out a company’s revenue mix and exposure to what the spending levels that are sort of most pertinent are? Ted Hanson: Yes. I’d tell you, Tobey, that might be best held for the Investor Day. I mean, we’re going to give some more insights on the marketplace as we see it. George, if you had something at the tip of your fingers, I mean, we certainly feel fine given that to you, Tobey, George. I mean, anything top of mind on that? George Wilson: Yes. The only thing – thank you, Tobey, for the question. The only thing that I would add is that we really do believe that we are in the fast currents of the budget with our cyber, particularly our cyber solutions and analytics and then also in the AI. So those are areas that we’re focusing on with all of our acquisitions as well as with our centers of excellence, and that’s where we’ll continue to focus. And we feel very confident about the spend in those areas. Ted Hanson: Yes. So spend is growing there, Tobey. We’ll do our best to give you a kind of size of the market when we get to the Investor Day here and just in a matter of weeks. Tobey Sommer: Great. We’ll call that a teaser. Curious on the consulting capability and the evolution of ASGN relative to sort of the rest of the market, Do you feel like you’re leading the drive to add consulting services and then, are a lot of players doing this? And I’m curious about whether you think having consulting capability of scale besides traditional assignment capability is just going to kind of be table stakes for the largest IT solutions players in a couple of years. Ted Hanson: Right. Well, good question. I mean, I would definitely – Rand and I would definitely tell you that we were – we believe we were a first-mover here. And when we got into this, we decided two things; don’t build a separate business, have an integrated strategy with the IT staffing. And the second part of this was to not do it off the side of our desk. So we’ve built a framework out that included people from the consulting world who knew how to risk manage, how to scope, frame, bid, put together engagements, manage them to successful completions. We put the systems in place to do that. And so we kind of got off on the right foot, if you will. And so we do see others trying to do this, I’d call more off the side of their desk, or dress up of staffing service as consulting, but don’t really have strong technical muscle capabilities and ability to do all the things that I said. Some of the bigger players will be able to do this and the others will play in the IT staffing market, which is a good market. But yes, I think that I mean we’re going to benefit surely from the way that we’ve done this and from being a first mover there. And ultimately, it’s these accounts. I mean that’s what really matters. I mean account relationships in this area are everything. As I mentioned before, we’ve had them for years and decades. And so we have a certain trust there and the clients willing for us to take on this additional responsibility and step up and help them get to certain solutions, and that’s the real key here. Tobey Sommer: Thanks. Last question for me. Could you give us your outlook for bill rate growth, I guess, particularly on the commercial side with all this news and some data around inflation? I’m curious what your perspective is. Ted Hanson: Yes. I think it will. It’s not a new part of this market, Tobey. So I mean I wouldn’t point you to a certain number, but I would say, inflation in wage rates and bill rates for our technical resources has been going up for years and years and will continue to go up. And so we typically would see that in our data on a year-to-year basis. And so I know there’s a lot of talk right now about inflation. And certainly, we’re seeing inflation in wage rates and bill rates, but I wouldn’t say it’s out of the norm. But I would point you to one thing, which is one of the things that you can see in our margin profile the way it’s reported that not only are we able to raise bill rates appropriately, but we’re able to widen the spread between the pay and the bill margin. And that’s kind of been a highlight within the gross margin area over a long period of time for us, but certainly in the last year. Tobey Sommer: Thank you very much. Operator: Thank you. Next question today is coming from Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now live. Jeff Silber: Thanks so much. Just a follow-up to the last question. We’ve obviously been reading and hearing about labor supply issues beyond just the wage inflation aspect of it. Are you finding it tougher to find people both in terms of external resources for your clients and also internally? Ted Hanson: Rand, do you want to take that one? Rand Blazer: Well, Jeff, I don’t want to be flip, but we’re the number two U.S. IT staffing business. This is our profession. This is what we do very well. And I think some of it is, Jeff, it’s not that it’s been tough for a long time. I mean the IT employment levels have been very, very high for a long time as IT spending in corporate America continues to increase. So I think it’s a matter of forecasting the demand. It’s a matter of building pipeline of candidates. It’s building specialized recruiting teams that know those skills and know where to find the people in them. It’s having a database of people that have worked with us in the past and work with us today. I mean there’s a lot of elements that go into this, building CE community, the contract employee community, so that we have some brand loyalty. I mean there’s a lot of things that make this work for us. And it’s not that it’s easy, it’s not. It just takes diligence and staying with it and staying ahead of it. Does that answer your question, Jeff? Jeff Silber: Yes. That’s actually very helpful. In terms of my second question, I want to shift over to the acquisition market. Obviously, the company has been acquisitive for a while, but as you mentioned, there’s a lot of other companies doing the same thing. Can you tell us what acquisition multiples are trending these days? And how it compares to before the pandemic? Ted Hanson: Yes. So I mean, look, we’ve been very fortunate here, Jeff. We’ve been able to get our acquisitions done at or sometimes even below our own multiple, but I don’t think that’s the ultimate judgment here. I mean, we would be willing to pay more in multiple for the right business, if we’re really going to add the economic value that we believe it could because remember, these are higher-growth, higher-margin businesses with providing higher-value services to the customer. And so even if we were to stray and to pay more than even our own multiple, I mean, there’s a real return in that for us. Multiples for companies build as digital transformation are certainly stratospheric right now, but we’re getting really good consultative capabilities for reasonable multiples around our own or a little bit below that really are adding value to the work that we’re providing for our customer base. And that’s really the secret sauce here. Jeff Silber: All right. Really appreciate the color. Thanks so much. Operator: Thank you. Next question is coming from Surinder Thind from Jefferies. Your line is now live. Surinder Thind: Good afternoon. Just a follow-up question on kind of the delivery strategy for the Commercial Segment, and more specifically, the consulting part. Can you talk a little bit about the mix, I guess, in terms of the delivery of the use of contract staff versus kind of full-time employees? As I kind of think about your bringing on through acquisitions, you’re adding to those capabilities. And how does that mix change? And where do you see that over time? And does it make more sense to get to a ratio where there’s maybe more full-time staff versus contract stuff? Ted Hanson: Yes. It’s a good question. Rand, do you want to take that one? Rand Blazer: Yes. Surinder, I would say, we’re going to watch it as we go. First of all, our consulting leadership, including myself, I don’t really know, but we have a 25-, 30-year history in running consulting businesses before we ever got here. I do believe in the model of blending contingent labor with our own internal team. I would say, it will increase a bit as we – it already has increased here over the past couple of years as we made the acquisitions, we do have more talent now, and we can put that talent to work on these engagements. We certainly want the leadership on these engagements to come from internally. We want our solutions, SMEs to be in tune and part of our framing and architecting our solutions. But a lot of the arms and legs can be done with contingent labor as well as sometimes we bring in people that have had and done the work before in the same industry many times. So I think a blend is the right answer. When I was running KPMG consulting, I would have done this. I didn’t know enough back in the 90s to do this like we’re doing today, but it really works. And I’d say it’s a blend, and depending on the engagement, it might be a little heavier internal versus contingent and in some cases more contingent. Certainly, as we get into the modern enterprise solution, and some of the digital transformation, we have to have the leads on this work, and that requires us to have enough bench to satisfy that and the growing demand. Surinder Thind: That’s helpful. And then a question related to, there was some good color on the demand from some of the larger clients and penetration and stuff. Is there any meaningful amount of work that you guys do with perhaps larger consulting firms in the subcontracting capacity? Or is that just a really small part of the business? Or how should we think about some of those relationships that may have existed historically? Ted Hanson: Yes, Rand, go ahead. Rand Blazer: Yes, we haven’t had to become a subcontractor to the big guys, if you will, in our client base. For the most part, the clients are getting smarter and smarter and give them a lot of credit. CIOs today are beginning to apportion work depending on the nature of the work and who’s best equipped to do it and contracting with the different teams and blending their teams together. So we have not pursued a path of being a subcontractor to the big guys. Whether we do that in the future, there’s always alliance relationships, particularly with software vendors. But I don’t see that on the near horizon, Surinder. And I don’t think that’s exactly what the CIO was looking for anymore. I think they have the ability to blend the teams and sold out the work based on the expertise and confidence of different consultants. Surinder Thind: Got it. That’s helpful. And then just kind of a final question in terms of a question that I asked earlier about valuation. But as you kind of think about the firms that you’re looking at that are kind of the below $100 million versus those that are above $100 million in revenues, is there a scaling issue in terms of what the valuations and stuff? Or how do you think about the balance there that you see? Or at least what are you guys seeing in the private marketplace? Ted Hanson: Well, look, I think sometimes, Surinder, you could see lower valuation multiples for businesses that have less scale because maybe, and we’ve seen this, maybe they have great technical chops, but just aren’t able to develop the work or have the account portfolio that we do, right? And on the flip side, if you have a business that has greater scale, and has been able to kind of crack that not on both sides, then maybe they command a higher multiple. But again, I would go back and say, I mean, for us, we’re willing to pay a multiple, whatever that multiple is as we judge it out to bring a business in and deploy it against our strategy here in consulting services in the commercial marketplace. And if we are paying a higher multiple, we’re going to be getting something for that, which is their own accounts, greater growth rates, larger and more comprehensive digital transformation capabilities or industry expertise, not just against one industry, but multiple industries. Surinder Thind: That’s helpful. And so thank you and congratulations on a great quarter. Ted Hanson: Thank you. Operator: Thank you. Your next question today is coming from Mark Marcon from Baird. Your line is now live. Mark Marcon: Hey, good afternoon. Wondering if you could talk a little bit about both CyberCoders and Creative Circle. You’ve had four quarters of growth sequentially, very strong year-over-year growth. Where did those kind of sit now relative to like pre-COVID levels? Ted Hanson: Rand, do you want to take that one? Rand Blazer: Yes. They are – if you benchmark them against Q2 of 2019, Mark, they’re both just slightly negative to that date. So they’ve almost caught themselves pre-COVID, okay, both CyberCoders and Creative Circle. I’d say Creative Circle, the sequential growth, I guess, Mark, I’ll add this, it’s really been on a great path. They have adopted some key mechanics in the way they do their business in the markets they focus on. They’re following some of the same script that Apex Systems is in terms of large account portfolio and blending that. They broadened their solution base. They’ve really got a top-notch management team that has done a heck of a job over the last two years going through all this. So they’re definitely on that path. And I’d say the same for CyberCoders. They definitely have caught themselves and now on a really good path. Mark Marcon: That’s great to hear. I mean how big do you think Creative Circle could get now, now that they’re on that path? Rand Blazer: I don’t think we forecasted a number, but they should certainly get to a stronger position than they were pre-COVID. They were really focused on a narrower set of solutions, Mark, and a narrower set of accounts. And particularly heavily emphasized the ad agency and creative events kind of work. And a lot of that work tripled up even before COVID, but certainly during COVID. And so we’ve had to broaden things out. So I expect now we have a better structure and a better management, stronger management team that can take it beyond where it was pre-COVID. Mark Marcon: Okay. That’s great. And how does the gross margins in Creative Circle compared to where they used to be historically? Rand Blazer: Ted, should I keep going? Ted Hanson: Yes. Rand Blazer: I think they’re just a hair below, not much difference, but they are a little hair below, and most of that’s driven because of the large account, mixed in their portfolio. But not at all like Apex. Apex, I think, has a different set of services and in the sense of IT services where their creative team is more creative and creative marketing and digital around the marketing function. So they enjoy I think, higher margins, different kind of treatment in the client environment, and their margins have really – gross margins have held really pretty well, very little deterioration over the years. Mark Marcon: Are they above the commercial average? Ted Hanson: They are, Mark. Yes. Mark Marcon: Okay. Great. And then on Apex Systems, the 16.6% growth, how much of that was organic? Rand Blazer: 15.3% was organic. Mark Marcon: Great. That’s terrific. And then with regards to federal government, it looks like the book-to-bill improved. What’s the outlook there just in terms of upcoming contracts and renewals and how we should think about that? And how confident are you with regards to the pace potentially accelerating or decelerating? Ted Hanson: Yes. Well, look, Mark, I think we are dealing with the tough comps on a just fact basis here over 2020 and the great growth rates that ECS had. We don’t give forward numbers. I don’t think Ed parsed his guidance here, he gave it for ASGN, not for the commercial versus the gov. But we’re looking for continued growth in new bookings, especially as the administration gets all its assets in place who are overseeing the awards of these contracts. So that instead of getting extensions on work, we’re beginning to get larger three- and five-year awards on some of this work. So I think that, that all portends well for the future, but I’ll kind of stop there without giving any numbers here for the out quarters. Mark Marcon: I mean, just given all the press around cyber issues and targeting of federal installations. And obviously, some of Raytheon’s comments the other day just with regards to kind of a strategic shift of how we should think about conflicts. Wouldn’t that portend well in terms of the budgets potentially increasing in terms of what you’re able to go after? Ted Hanson: Look, we would agree with you, and I think that was, speaks to George’s comments around the fast currents of where we are playing, and one of those is in cybersecurity, and we have a very robust and sizable offering in the federal marketplace around kind of end-to-end cybersecurity. So we would, I think I could just leave it at, we would generally agree with what you said. Mark Marcon: Great. Thank you. Operator: Thank you. We reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I’d like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Hanson for any further or closing comments. Ted Hanson: Great. Well, I thank everyone for being here. We’ve spoken now twice in the last few weeks, and we look forward to speaking with you again, September 14. And we hope that you can make to our Virtual Analyst Day and we’ll talk more about the future. And again, thank you for your support of ASGN. Operator: Thank you. It does conclude today’s teleconference and webcast. You may disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.
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ASGN Incorporated (NYSE:ASGN) Financial and Operational Highlights

  • ASGN's financial performance in Q3 2024 includes revenues of $1.031 billion and net income of $47.5 million, with an adjusted EBITDA of $116.9 million.
  • The company repurchased one million shares for $95.6 million, aiming to enhance shareholder value.
  • IT consulting segment is a major revenue contributor, with the commercial segment reporting new bookings of $1.2 billion and the federal government segment securing $1.1 billion in new contract awards.

ASGN Incorporated (NYSE:ASGN) is a leading provider of IT services and solutions, catering to both commercial and government sectors. The company offers a range of services, including IT consulting and staffing solutions. ASGN competes with other major players in the IT services industry, striving to maintain its position through strategic initiatives and financial performance.

On October 25, 2024, Lindstrom Carol, a director at ASGN, sold 1,060 shares of the company's common stock at approximately $93.02 per share. This transaction leaves her with 4,579 shares. The sale comes at a time when ASGN's stock is trading at $92.75, reflecting a 1.19% decrease today, with a trading range between $92.645 and $95.98.

ASGN's financial results for the third quarter of 2024 show revenues of $1.031 billion and a net income of $47.5 million. The adjusted EBITDA, a measure of the company's operating performance, is $116.9 million, which is 11.3% of the revenues. Operating cash flows are strong at $135.8 million, with free cash flow at $127.9 million, indicating healthy financial management.

The company has also been active in repurchasing its own shares, buying back approximately one million shares for $95.6 million during the quarter. This move can be seen as a strategy to enhance shareholder value by reducing the number of shares outstanding, potentially increasing earnings per share.

ASGN's IT consulting segment contributes significantly to its revenues, accounting for 57.9% of the total. The commercial segment reported new bookings of $1.2 billion over the past year, with a book-to-bill ratio of 1.1 to 1, indicating strong demand. The federal government segment secured $1.1 billion in new contract awards, with a book-to-bill ratio of 0.9 to 1, as highlighted by the management's comments on stable market demand.

ASGN Incorporated (NYSE:ASGN) Earnings Report Highlights

  • ASGN's earnings per share (EPS) of $1.03 missed the estimated $1.35, while revenue exceeded expectations at $1.031 billion.
  • The company reported a net income of $47.5 million and an adjusted EBITDA of $116.9 million, indicating strong financial health.
  • ASGN's IT consulting segment was a major revenue contributor, and the company showed a stable market demand in both commercial and federal government segments.

ASGN Incorporated (NYSE:ASGN) is a key player in the IT services and solutions industry, catering to both commercial and government sectors. The company recently reported its third-quarter 2024 earnings, revealing a mixed financial performance. While ASGN's earnings per share (EPS) of $1.03 fell short of the estimated $1.35, the company managed to surpass revenue expectations with $1.031 billion against the anticipated $1.006 billion.

During the earnings call on October 23, 2024, attended by notable analysts, ASGN's leadership, including CEO Ted Hanson and CFO Marie Perry, provided insights into the company's financial health. The call highlighted ASGN's net income of $47.5 million and an adjusted EBITDA of $116.9 million, which represents 11.3% of the total revenues. The company also reported strong operating cash flows of $135.8 million and a free cash flow of $127.9 million.

ASGN's IT consulting segment played a significant role, contributing 57.9% to the total revenues. In the commercial segment, the company achieved new bookings of $1.2 billion over the trailing twelve months, with a book-to-bill ratio of 1.1 to 1. The federal government segment secured $1.1 billion in new contract awards, with a book-to-bill ratio of 0.9 to 1, indicating a stable market demand.

Financial metrics provide further insights into ASGN's market position. The company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio is approximately 23.07, while the price-to-sales ratio is about 0.995. The enterprise value to sales ratio stands at 1.21, and the enterprise value to operating cash flow ratio is around 11.84. These figures reflect ASGN's valuation relative to its sales and cash flow. Additionally, the company's debt-to-equity ratio of 0.58 suggests a moderate level of debt compared to its equity.

Insider Trading at ASGN: Director Carol Lindstrom's Strategic Move

Insider Trading Activity at ASGN: A Strategic Move by Director Carol Lindstrom

On Tuesday, April 30, 2024, Carol Lindstrom, a director at ASGN:NYSE, made a significant move by selling 1,000 shares of ASGN's Common Stock at a price of approximately $97.04 per share. This transaction reduced Lindstrom's stake in the company to 5,639 shares, a detail that was officially recorded in a Form 4 filing with the SEC. This insider trading activity provides a glimpse into the actions of those with intimate knowledge of the company, potentially reflecting their perspective on the company's current valuation and future prospects.

ASGN's Financial Highlights and Strategic Initiatives

ASGN, a company that operates under the NYSE with the symbol ASGN, has recently been in the spotlight for its financial achievements and strategic initiatives. In the first quarter of 2024, ASGN reported impressive financial results, including revenues of $1.05 billion and a net income of $38.1 million. These figures are indicative of the company's strong performance and operational efficiency. Furthermore, ASGN's adjusted EBITDA stood at $108.3 million, representing 10.3 percent of the revenues, which highlights the company's profitability and its ability to generate earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization.

The company's commitment to enhancing shareholder value is evident through its actions, such as the repurchase of approximately 0.8 million shares of its common stock for $79.7 million and the approval of a new, two-year $750 million stock repurchase program. These stock repurchase programs are a clear indication of ASGN's confidence in its own future prospects and its dedication to returning value to its shareholders. Additionally, the successful refinancing of its term loan B, achieving a 50-basis point reduction in the interest rate, demonstrates ASGN's strategic financial management and its ability to optimize its capital structure for the benefit of its stakeholders.

ASGN's business segments also show promising growth, with IT Consulting revenues accounting for approximately 56.7 percent of the total revenues. The Commercial Segment's new bookings for the trailing-twelve-month period (TTM) at $1.3 billion further underscore the company's strong market position and its ability to secure new business. These financial and operational achievements are complemented by ASGN's commitment to social responsibility, as evidenced by Apex Systems, a brand under ASGN, receiving the VETS Indexes Recognized Employer designation. This award highlights the company's dedication to supporting veterans and the military-connected community, reinforcing ASGN's role as a leader in fostering an inclusive and supportive work environment.

ASGN's Financial Metrics and Market Valuation

The financial metrics such as the price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of approximately 21.51, price-to-sales (P/S) ratio of about 1.02, and other valuation ratios provide investors with a comprehensive view of ASGN's market valuation. These ratios indicate the amount investors are willing to pay for a dollar of earnings or sales, offering insights into the company's financial health and market position. The debt-to-equity (D/E) ratio of about 0.56 further provides an understanding of the company's leverage and financial stability. Together, these financial indicators and strategic initiatives paint a picture of ASGN as a robust company with a solid foundation for future growth and a commitment to delivering value to its shareholders and contributing positively to the community.