Albertsons Companies, Inc. (ACI) on Q1 2021 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

Operator: Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Albertsons Companies' First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode until the Q&A session. This call is being recorded. After the presentation there will be an opportunity to ask questions. I would now like to hand the call over to Melissa Plaisance, GVP of Treasury and Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Melissa Plaisance: Good morning and thank you for joining us for Albertsons Companies' first quarter 2021 earnings conference call. With me today from the company are Vivek Sankaran, our President and CEO; and Bob Dimond, our CFO. Today, Vivek will share insights into our first quarter results, as well as review our progress against our strategic priorities. Bob will then provide the financial details of our first quarter as well as updated full-year 2021 outlook before handing it back over to Vivek for some closing remarks. After management's comments, we will conduct a Q&A session. I'd like to remind you that management may make statements during this call that are or could include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Forward-looking statements are not limited to historical facts but contain information about future operating or financial performance. Forward-looking statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to be materially different from those anticipated. These risks and uncertainties include those related to the COVID-19 pandemic. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are and will be contained from time to time in our SEC filings, including on Forms 10-Q, 10-K, and 8-K. Any forward-looking statements we make today are only as of today's date, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any such statements as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. Please keep in mind that included in the financial statements and management's prepared remarks are certain non-GAAP measures. And the historical financial information includes a reconciliation of net income to adjusted net income and adjusted EBITDA. And with that, I will hand the call over to Vivek. Vivek Sankaran: Thanks, Melissa. Good morning everyone and thanks for joining us today. We entered uncharted territory in Q1 with comparisons to last year's pandemic stock-up period and the gradual reopening of various geographies as vaccination rates accelerated and COVID related restrictions were lifted. In this dynamic environment, we remain focused on executing our strategy centered around deepening relationships with our customers and leveraging technology to run our business more efficiently and effectively. I am pleased to report that our results for the quarter exceeded our internal plans across all key metrics, increasing our confidence in the balance of this year. Bob Dimond: Thanks, Vivek, and hello, everyone. I am pleased to provide details on our strong first quarter results as well as an update to our fiscal 2021 outlook. In many cases, I will make comparisons back to our first quarter of fiscal 2019 period to demonstrate the performance versus our pre-pandemic levels. For the first quarter, total sales were $21.3 billion, up approximately 14% or $2.5 billion compared to the first quarter of fiscal 2019, which is primarily driven by our 16.5% two-year stacked identical sales results. Our gross profit margin came in at 29.1% during the first quarter of 2021 compared to 29.8% in Q1 2020 and 28% in Q1 2019. Excluding the impact of fuel, our gross profit margin was up 10 basis points compared to Q1 of 2020, and increased over 90 basis points compared to Q1 2019. The increase compared to Q1 2019 is primarily driven by improvements in shrink expense, our productivity initiatives, sales leverage and improved pharmacy margins relating to administering COVID-19 vaccinations, partially offset by investments related to our growth in digital sales. Vivek Sankaran: Thank you, Bob. Before we turn to Q&A, I want to share a few closing remarks. While it's hard to predict the impacts of COVID-19 on demand over the long-term, we believe there are a few trends that will stick with us. First, we believe digital engagement with consumers in our sector will continue to increase. This provides us with an opportunity to gather more data and deliver a better, more personalized shopping experience for our customers. Second, even though we saw a step change in 2020, we believe consumers will increase their use of e-commerce solutions, especially pick up in store and rapid delivery. Particularly in our industry, consumers value speed and delivery, and we are committed to continuing to enhance speed by leveraging our great store locations. Lastly, we believe more remote work is here to stay. This means more meals at home, which will continue to benefit our business, particularly the demand for fresh ingredients and meals. Albertsons Companies is well positioned to capitalize on these trends given our unique competitive advantages. And as we go forward, we'll remain focused on investing in technology to amplify our strengths and become a faster and more efficient business to better serve our customers and drive EBITDA flow-through in our P&L. With this as a backdrop, let me also share some insights on recent trends in our performance. Despite business reopening and people resuming travel, our sales momentum continues with growth in market share, and we are very focused on continuing these trends on market share. When looking at our average weekly sales dollars, sales in Q2 are continuing at the same levels as in Q1. We are seeing continued strength in sales of items that were elevated throughout the pandemic such as meat, seafood, produce and high-end wines, providing evidence that some important food and beverage categories remain shifted to food at home. While we are seeing higher cost inflation in some categories, we saw modest inflation during Q1, and we were generally successful in passing it through as the competitive environment has remained rational. And we continue to see households upgrading to more quality and premium products indicating that the consumer is still strong. Overall, we are confident in our ability to continue to produce strong results. I want to extend my thanks to our entire team of approximately 290,000 associates who are continuing to take care of our customers and communities this quarter as well as throughout the pandemic. We will now take your questions. Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. In the interest of hearing from as many callers as possible, we ask that you limit yourself to one question. The first question is from John Heinbockel from Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead. John Heinbockel: Hi, Vivek. I am going to do quick ones here. One, now that you've got another, I don't know, 20 weeks under your belt this year, what's your thought regarding the secular algo, right and how that may have changed because of COVID? And then secondly with all the capital, right, the cash and free cash flow you've got what would you like to invest in strategically? And I'm not talking about dividends or stuff like that, but more either organic or M&A that you think would be additive to the business? Is there anything like that out there? Operator: Pardon me? We seem to be having technical issues with the speakers' line. I believe that they are speaking now, but we're not hearing them. I'm going to pause for a moment and try to reconnect their lines. One moment please. Okay. We have the speakers again. Please proceed. Vivek Sankaran: Hi, John, and everybody, sorry about these glitches. Sorry about that guys. John, let me answer your question first. On a secular trend basis, I'll point to a few things; one, a very healthy consumer, okay. We are still seeing no trade down. They're still buying many, many discretionary items in our store, traded up on meat, wines et cetera. Second, it's clear to us that they are eating a lot more at home. Our fresh sales are higher than the rest of the store and so that continues. I think partly driven by the fact that people are still working from home and I've always maintained a point of view that that will continue into the future and also partly that people are more comfortable cooking at home. So our e-commerce continues to be strong, you know, what if I was to dissect that a little bit, you'll see that our e-commerce transactions are still higher over last year, but the baskets are small as you would expect because people bought everything and anything they could last year on e-commerce. But what's very interesting is there's people are coming back to the store, the traffic to the store has gone up significantly and it went up week over week over week through the last quarter, right. So, I mean, those are a few things I'll say, and just a lot more digital engagement, which we love John, because now we can get more data and we can personalize and do the right things for them. On cash, our priorities will still be the same, it's about growth. And we will first focus on organic growth. We'll continue to invest in our fleet. I think it's clear to us that stores still matter and we'll continue to do that and we're going to put a lot of energy into digital growth and that is both the software side and the hardware side. We're going to roll out more MFCs this year and we see a lot of promise there and we'll continue to do that, and we'll be opportunistic on M&As. And the stronger we are, the better the returns will be on M&A as it's turning out for us and Kings and Balducci's. John Heinbockel: Thank you. Operator: The next question is from Paul Lejuez of Citibank. Please go ahead. Paul Lejuez: Hi, thanks guys. Vivek, towards the end of your prepared remarks, I think get a couple of comments about inflation. Just wondering if you could dig in a little bit deeper in terms of what you're seeing on the cost of goods side of that inflation equation and how do you see that trending over the balance of the year? And then related to that, how does it change the way you think about pricing on national brands versus what you might do with your private label product pricing? Thanks. Vivek Sankaran: Do you want to touch on Bob, and I will do the pricing piece? Bob Dimond: You bet. Paul, what we saw in product cost inflation was somewhat modest 1.5% to 1.7% during the quarter. And so we saw that that was increasing slightly as the quarter continued, but still within a reasonable range. Vivek Sankaran: Yes. And our outlook on that is that I think it might be slightly higher towards the back half of the year, Paul, but I've always maintained that if it continues to be in the 3% to 4% range, it's actually good for the business, especially with a strong consumer, like I've indicated, this is something we can pass through and we get a lot of leverage when it gets into that range. Now, when it comes to pricing on Own Brands, look we – our Own Brands penetration is up. That's a good sign. It helps us on gross margins. We were all worried. You were all worried where the Own Brands are going to decline, but it's coming back nicely. Our Own Brands pricing will always be – you will have two things. One is pricing to make it an opening price point and pricing on some of our products, which are destination products where we'll be a little more aggressive because we can compete well with the national brands. And we'll just crack it with what's happening in the national brands. Paul Lejuez: Thank you. Good luck. Vivek Sankaran: Thanks, Paul. Operator: Our next question is from Karen Short with Barclays. Please go ahead. Karen Short: Hi, thanks very much. I just wanted to clarify a couple of things that you'd said. Bob, I think what you had said is that you were comfortable with the EBITDA margin for 2Q or consensus margin was appropriate for 2Q. So I would just want to – looking at that consensus from what I can tell is a 5% EBITDA margin. So is that the right way to think about the delta between 1Q and 2Q there's obviously some de-leverage, but the delta on that change sequentially is what the contribution of the vaccines were to 1Q mostly to 1Q gross margins. I'm just trying to understand the magnitude of the vaccine component on 1Q. Vivek Sankaran: Yes, great question, Karen. You've got part of it right there. Certainly, the vaccine income was a portion, but actually slight – the larger portion. If you go back five years kind of throw 2020 out, you'll find there's a seasonality adjustment, if you will, or a difference from Q2 – in Q2 going down 60 basis points to 70 basis points that happens every year. And then that pops back up as you get into Q3 and Q4. So the bigger piece of that is just normal seasonality, a little bit on pharmacy and other items. Bob Dimond: And we are accelerating DUG rollout. We're pulling it further up into Q2 because we think we can go faster and it should go faster. And so it's a combination of things there, Karen. That's right. Karen Short: Okay. Thanks. And then thanks for the clarification. And then I wanted to actually just go – switching gears to the centralization of the supply chain. I guess I wanted to ask just broadly how you weigh the risks – risk and rewards of that effort, because I guess in kind of the history of centralization, it's always kind of been a short-term benefit, but longer-term it hasn't always worked. So I'm wondering if you could give a little color on that. And then is the vast majority of that $500 million, I mean, assuming it is all gross margin benefit to the extent that that centralization is executed the way you hope. Vivek Sankaran: Yes, there are two topics, two different initiatives that help with gross margins. And if you think about the second half of the year, Karen, we've always maintained that. More of our productivity is coming in the second half. It's because of these two new initiatives. The first one is around supply chain, which is optimization of our distribution centers, rethinking how the network of distribution centers and so on. The second one is by pooling our spend on major categories and buying it as one national company rather than buying these big CPG products as a different divisions. Now, you're 100% right. And, centralization, the notion of pure centralization has been short-lived and you always get into the other side where people stop listening to what happens in the field. We've spent. One – we've done two things. One, we've pursued the dollars, and we're continuing to pursue the dollars and think of that as one set of initiatives. We've spent equal or more time on thinking about how we do it, how we make sure we are able to leverage the local knowledge that people have. We have maintained the core of those teams in our markets, so that they can provide local knowledge and insight, and we've added teams at the center, so that they can start getting the leverage where we need to, right. And so – and we've worked through every detail there, and we're very conscious of it. There are people on my team, who have been through the other side, and so we know what we don't want to do. And so we've been cautious, but your question is a good one, Karen, but to me I'd rather do this and work it, then be afraid to do it and that's where we're going down this path. Karen Short: Okay. That's helpful. Thanks very much. Operator: Your next question is from Scott Mushkin with R5 Capital. Please go ahead. Vivek Sankaran: Scott? Operator: Mr. Mushkin, your line is open. Okay, we should move. Vivek Sankaran: Go to the next question. Operator: We'll move on to the next caller. The next caller is Edward Kelly with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Vivek Sankaran: Hello, Ed. Edward Kelly: Hi, guys. Hi, guys. Good morning. I wanted to go back to the gross margin. Your performance on a two year basis up 90 basis points is obviously strong. Can you provide just a bit more color in terms of like unpacking that and the drivers of that? And then as we think about Q2, should we expect a similar trend? I mean, the comparison is similar, you've started off the same way from an ID perspective it seems like. And then just bigger picture if we were to take a step back, how do we think about the sustainability of this gross margin sort of post-pandemic versus pre-pandemic, and I think how much of this do you think ultimately fades? Bob Dimond: Okay, I'll take the first half of it here. As far as the 90 basis point improvement relative to 2019, it's really made up of several things here. We have had a tremendous shrink improvement. In addition to that we've also had several productivity initiatives that being one of them, but in addition to that, we've had some promotions efficiency improvements that have helped us out as well as we've talked a little bit already on the call about Own Brands. Our Own Brands mix has rebounded back up and as you know that has a higher gross margin to it. Our fresh mix that also has been growing as well. And so all of those things kind of work together to support that 90 basis points now as far as going forward, how we guided in our last conference call, as you might remember, is we said that we felt like that we would be directionally flat to the 2020 fiscal year overall gross margin, which implies that we'll be up to roughly 65 basis points that we were up in 2020 versus 2019 for the full year. It's not going to necessarily be a flat amount per quarter, because last year was kind of a strange year and there were some – some quarters are higher than others. So I would kind of – if you're to pattern it off of anything, I'd pattern it off of adding that to 2019. Vivek Sankaran: And Ed, you know, to me - a lot of what Bob mentioned were operational things, shrink, et cetera. What I said earlier about supply chain and cost of goods also continues to support gross margin. We are always, always seeking tailwinds for gross margin, okay. The meals program when done right in the store is accretive to gross margin. And so we keep seeking that. Now, but I will tell you that our intent will never be to keep expanding the gross margin as the means to the bottom line, right. Because what this gives us is it gives us a chance to surgically keep investing in price and other things that we can do to drive growth for – and get more volume through the P&L, which is always – which clearly in our business gives us tremendous flow through. So that's how we played. You'll always find us seeking more ideas. Edward Kelly: And just one quick follow-up for you on the $2 billion plus cash balance that you've got. You've talked about investments, but you've also been cash flow positive company, right, like you haven't – you've been more than covering that need. How do we think about the real sort of like optionality around this cash balance? First, whether it's debt reduction, whether it's the sponsor that still owns a lot of stock, if there were something to do opportunistically there? Would that interest you? You have bought stock in the past. I am just kind of curious as to how we really think about this $2 billion and what happens with it? Bob Dimond: Ed, good question, but we really do have our focus on investing it back in the business to drive sales. That's really it. We may do. We had planned to pay down just a little bit of debt this year, so we'll use a little bit of that as one of our bonds comes through a little bit later on. We keep our eyes open for M&A opportunities, but that would be our priority. Vivek Sankaran: Yes. And we will remain opportunistic, Ed. We are a good at buying and merging companies. And as those opportunities come, we'll do it. But primarily now we're focused on driving the organic growth. We think there's a lot more potential in the transformation we're doing right now. Edward Kelly: Great, thank you. Operator: And the next question is from Scott Mushkin with R5 Capital. Please go ahead Scott Mushkin: Let's try to do this again. Hopefully, you guys can hear me this time. Vivek Sankaran: I can hear you, Scott. Scott Mushkin: Hi. Okay, perfect. I think maybe it was my phone, I don't know. Anyway I wanted to ask a longer-term question around omnichannel digital. And just really understanding two things. Number one, it seems like you guys are trying to pursue a much more asset light model compared to some of your competitors and I want to make sure my interpretation is correct there. Then the other thing I want to talk about, or maybe you could ask – answer is kind of like keeping the store environment shoppable. I mean, I was in a Walmart yesterday down in Houston. I think there was just fighting in the shelves with the pickers is difficult. So those are my kind of two questions and then I have a follow up. Vivek Sankaran: Yes. Let me start with the second question first, right? Because our e-commerce business, I would say, I don't characterize it as asset light. I think it begins with saying our greatest asset is the store, full-stop, right. And so, we are like ducks paddling pretty hard every day. It's smooth on the top, but we're paddling very hard to run great stores. And it's simple for us. It's got to be full. It's got to be clean. The fresh has to be really fresh. We've got to offer the variety and we better have good service and by the way better manage the labor properly. And there is a group of us who are maniacal about doing that. When you have that, it gives you a great base to build an e-commerce business. And our e-commerce business, this is built on those stores. And the reason I don't say its asset light, Scott, is that I do believe that there is room for MFCs and MFC growth, okay. The nice thing about the MFCs is it is assets. It's more assets, but it gives you optionality. You can go at a certain pace. You're not making any single bet. You're making many, many bets. And with every passing year, you're getting more new technology on the bet you're making, so we like that. That's the approach that we're taking. On the delivery side of it, yes, we are going. We were asset heavy and we are going asset-light, right, because I don't believe the model of the milk one with a truck. It's a good idea for grocery. And so we are using much more of the point to point deliveries. So that's how we think about it, but everything – everything rests on running great stores, which is always our number one priority. Scott Mushkin: That's great. Thanks. And then my follow-up is actually a little bit, I think we're – maybe Ed was going on this question, is that your stock sitting here with my math, just under 5 times EBITDA in 2022, that's really low almost kind of almost getting to distressed levels. Is there anything from a management perspective that you think you guys can do to try to get more attention to what you're doing to kind of get that valuation up? Do you guys even think about it? Thanks. Vivek Sankaran: Thank you, Scott. It's – there's about $11 billion pre-pandemic, real estate value have also embedded in this. So, we think – we agree with you. We agree with you and hopefully continue to put up quarters like this will make a difference. Scott Mushkin: All right, guys. Thanks very much. Nice quarter. Operator: The next question is from Ken Goldman with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead. Ken Goldman: Hi. Thank you. You mentioned that you were successful in passing along inflation. Vivek, you're still well below that 3% to 4% range. You said is still good for the business. A lot of the packaged food companies we cover though, they're facing more inflation than they expected even a couple months ago. Now some of them are talking about seeking second rounds of pricing with customers. So I'm curious, what is your appetite for letting second rounds through in a general sense? It's historically there has been a lot of pushback to that. But right now elasticity is just not that powerful a driver, so maybe you're thinking about letting more through than usual. I just kind of wanted to get your sense for how you're dealing with some of your vendors coming back asking for more? Vivek Sankaran: Ken, good morning. Yes, let me put it this way. First, it's always on a case by case basis, okay. And I know that some of our CPG companies are facing challenges in labor, challenges in transportation, et cetera. We have a large owned – Own Brands business. And because of that, we get tremendous transparency also. And so, what's happening to costs. So we end up having good and constructive negotiations with our supplier partners. And where it is warranted and legitimate, we will pass it through. And when I say the 3% to 4% recognize that, yes, we may have several CPGs who – where there is a legitimate cost increase and requiring a price increase, and we'll do that. But it rarely is that our entire portfolio goes up 3% to 4%, you always something that is going down, especially when you have such a high fresh component. And that's what happens. That's why you end up with this 3% to 4%, despite you're hearing the noise about inflation in many of the CPG companies coming together. All that said, I do expect it to be a little higher in the back half of this year. There's no question about it. I do expect it to be higher, but in the range that we feel comfortable passing through. Ken Goldman: Okay. That's helpful and then a quick follow-up. Are there any signs that any of your major competitors are planning on stepping up discounting in the back half of the year? Are you pushing any of your major vendors to start spending back more in the stores? I know some of that is counterintuitive with the pricing that's going on, but just trying to get a sense of the environment you're seeing right now and what you're looking for there? Vivek Sankaran: Remarkably about the same as it was for the last – I looked at it just recently, as you index promotions and stuff, it's about – it's been the same for the last several quarters – last two or three quarters, Ken. I think you have two, One is we talked about the elasticity. The other thing to keep in mind is supply. Those – the types of things that you would tend to promote in football like a – like soda or beer or a Gatorade and other things – I mean, things are in tighter supply, so it's just going to be harder for us to do anything like that. So I think you're seeing the discipline in the marketplace. Ken Goldman: Thank you. Operator: The next question is from Kate McShane with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Vivek Sankaran: Hello, Kate. Kate, we can’t hear you. Operator: Kate McShane, your line is open. Melissa Plaisance: Kate, why don't you dial back in? We'll pick you up. Let's going to the next caller. Operator: Certainly. The next caller is Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Simeon Gutman: Hi, everyone. Good morning. I hope you can hear me. Nice quarter. Vivek Sankaran: Yes, we can hear you. Simeon Gutman: Great. So my first question, I want to talk about the top line in the quarter. So the stacks look like they're accelerating, the industry certainly not, so you're certainly taking share. Can you talk about how you look at the business? It looks like it's accelerating versus – it's accelerated in Q1. Can you break apart units and pricing and take out fuel and adjust for seasonality? And is that fair? Is it accelerating? Is it about the same versus the prior quarter? And Vivek, you had this hypothesis pretty early on that some of the habits during COVID would hold. It looks like that's true so far. Why should that continue even as we moderate – as we go back post-COVID, like why should that hypothesis still hold going forward? Are you seeing things that gives you confidence in that now? Vivek Sankaran: Yes, Simeon, let me answer the second one. Bob, can you then come back to the first one? So let's go into what is driving the sustenance of that behavior. I always believe that the bigger impact of the lasting – more lasting impact of the pandemic is the work from home, right? And so you're finding more and more companies going to a model where they say come three days to the office or two days to the office, but that really means two days at home or one day at home and that's a substantial number. So I think you're going to see as long as that continues and we all get into a different mode of working, you're going to see more in-home consumption, especially breakfast and lunch. And that's substantial. The second thing we're seeing this one I don't know how long it will hold, okay, which is people cooking more at home. And I'm seeing that only because you're seeing a lot more fresh sales than 2019, and it's higher on a relative basis to the rest of the store. That I don't know, Simeon, how long it last, but I can see that pattern going for at least a year. The real test will be what happens when schools open? What happens when colleges open in the fall? What happens when people start traveling more and so on, which is why in our outlook, you've seen that our sales are adjusted a little down for the second half, but the trends that I'm seeing now are pretty positive. And then on the first item, Simeon, you really can't look at the ID rates very well, especially in the first quarter because things were really crazy a year ago as you know. But when we track – we obviously track things on an average dollar basis, on a weekly basis, and we saw some very solid strength and momentum really throughout the quarter. So... Vivek Sankaran: Consistent, right? Bob Dimond: That's right. And as we said in our prepared remarks, we continue to see that into the second quarter much at the same level as we saw in the first quarter. So we're very optimistic on where sales are going. Unidentified Analyst: Thank you. Operator: The next caller is Kate McShane from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Kate McShane: Hi. Good morning. Can you hear me? Vivek Sankaran: Yes, Kate. Sorry about the technical staff, but we can hear you well. Kate McShane: Okay. Good. No problem at all. I just wanted to follow-up on the digital delivery piece, the third-party fulfillment. I just wondered, ultimately, what that looks like in terms of how many partners do ultimately have when it comes to third-party fulfillment. And what does it mean for profitability? And finally, just the last question related to that is just what does it mean when it comes to data and using these other third-party fulfillment marketplaces? Vivek Sankaran: Yes. So Kate, let me split that into two buckets. One is recognize that the fastest-growing business for us is Drive Up & Go, and we're really excited about that, right? It is growing on top of last year, and it's growing faster than the expansion rate of our Drive Up stations. And in the Drive Up & Go, we have everything, right? We do the entire – with the service. There's a second part of the business where customers are ordering through us, and we are using a third-party to do the last mile. And that's purely more than anything an efficiency play because it allows for speed. You can get it done in a two-hour delivery. And we believe in the notion of speed in eCommerce, right? So that's the second part. Then the third part of the business is where we have a third-party who is getting the customer order and picking in the store and delivering it. And so that's – and that part of the business, we are using multiple partners. And really, our philosophy there is that we're going to meet the customer where they want, right? And many of our customers – most of our customers are shopping both. The best customers are shopping both online and in-store. And our stores are in great locations. So I think it works for everybody, including the third-party when we are shopping proximal to where the customer is living. So that works for us. And what we are doing is we are engaging more and more in the transparency around the data and in loyalty programs so that we continue to maintain that relationship and have the knowledge of what that customer is buying. So we'd look at it in three parts. And I just think at the end of the day, we'll focus on reaching that customer in many, many different ways. Kate McShane: Thank you. Operator: The next question is from Michael Montane with Evercore. Please go ahead. Michael Montane: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Just wanted to ask if I could on the 10% ID sales decline and then 16.5% two-year, if you all could share what the traffic and tickets split was, it did sound like traffic is positive. So I thought that's an important point to tease up and then just to follow-up. Bob Dimond: Yes. First of all, customer count or transactions is up, although the basket is down a little bit, of course. So we're seeing some of that. But we see that as a real positive thing. People are coming back to the stores more than where they were a year ago certainly. And we're seeing strong sales and volumes as well. Vivek Sankaran: Yes. Michael, what's been interesting is the traffic count – the transaction count is up both online and in store over last quarter, right? And you would expect it in the store, but it's nice to see that online transactions are also over the last quarter. So and it's really a matter of baskets dropping, which also you would expect given how much of stock up there was last year. Michael Montane: Okay. That makes sense. And then just the follow-up I had was you've seen some good traction, I think, in multichannel. And I just wanted to get a handle on any color you can share with respect to kind of the flow-through rates as that business continues to grow and how it would compare to kind of the core brick and mortar flow through. Is there a pathway to get it equal or above when you think about that Vivek and Bob? Bob Dimond: Yes. I'll start here. Certainly our biggest growth has been at DUG and our Drive Up & Go. And our Drive Up & Go on an incremental basis is improving as we move along, as we're getting more and more volume into that. And we can see a day where that probably will be indifferent. As far as delivery, I don't know that we can see that that's ever going to be something that's going to be as profitable as Drive Up & Go or the other that that mile, that piece of it is always going to be an incremental cost. Vivek Sankaran: Right. And Michael, then what you do, so if you like to – later in the year towards the end of this year we are re-launching our media platform. And so you find other sources of revenue and profit because you're getting more and more digital engagement with that customer, and that's what we're excited about. So if you think about e-commerce, yes is a little more logistically intensive, but you get more digital engagement that opens up other avenues for you, and that's how we see this. And then finally, I think there is a scenario down the road where the MFC start getting the cost curve pretty far down. So compared to maybe two years ago, we're feeling – seeing a lot more levers to make the e-commerce side of the business indifferent, if I can call it that. Michael Montane: Really interesting stuff. Thank you for the color. Operator: Our next question is from Robbie Ohmes with Bank of America Securities. Please go ahead. Vivek Sankaran: Hi, Robbie. Robbie Ohmes: Hi. My question is, can you hear me? Vivek Sankaran: Yes. So we can. Bob Dimond: Excellent. Robbie Ohmes: Excellent. Hey and I apologize. I dialed in and I did miss some of the call, but so I wanted to just follow-up, I think on Simeon's question. It does look like you gained market share this quarter. Is that right from your perspective and if so, do you think, what was the biggest driver? Do you think vaccines played a role in that? Do you think you were doing things better within stocks, or were you doing things maybe with relative pricing and where do you think the market share is coming? Vivek Sankaran: If you look at – if you decompose it and how and where we're gaining market share? We're gaining a lot of market share in food, in the world of food. Less so if you compare it to MULO, but on a two-year basis, we are also holding market share in MULO that includes all of the other channels. I think we're keeping the market share because one we have – we have seen a greater index in our purchases on fresh, relative to the rest of the store. So I think, I told you the transactions are up – the transactions are up because people are coming back more often for fresh and that helps us with the market share. So clearly that's a component of it. I'll tell you, interestingly on the vaccines, we did – we're proud of what we did on that, okay? We punched above our weight on vaccines. Once again, just tells our – we are proud of how flexible the team was and how creative the team was. We got a lot of customers in who are not shopping with us and we kept some of them. So in the grand scheme of things, Robbie, it wasn't the vaccination traffic that drove our total food sales market share. I think it's more fundamental operations and running great stores and having this e-commerce business beginning to hum. Robbie Ohmes: That's great. Congrats on a great quarter. Vivek Sankaran: Thank you, Robbie. Operator: The next question is from Krisztina Katai with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Krisztina Katai: Hi guys. Good morning, and congrats on a great quarter. Vivek Sankaran: Thank you. Krisztina Katai: I guess I wanted to again, follow up on the market share that you continue to gain like really good results there in a two-year stack. So I was just curious how that has evolved throughout the first quarter compared to your expectations, really, as you started lapping some of those share gains from last year? And a follow-up to that is going to be a question on your promotional strategies. You talked a lot about being more surgical with promotion. So maybe you could give us an update on the progress that you have made? And I was curious to see if there's anything to share, that's interesting on the behavior of some of these newer customers that you have acquired over the last 12 months to 15 months? Vivek Sankaran: Yes. So the market share gains, I think, first we had – our last quarter last year was 26% ID. So we're lapping a very strong quarter and I've been pleasantly surprised that on top of that quarter, we are gaining market share and the market share gains have been steady. I look at it every week and it's been steady. And we've – we frankly, we feel like we won both holidays in quarter one, okay. And so we feel good about that. With regard to you had a question on customer behaviors. The customer behaviors, with the new customers, I think a lot of customers we brought in, we brought in through e-commerce some of the customers we brought in, we brought in through the vaccinations those smaller portion and what we're seeing there is that the customers that are – that we're most excited about who are coming through e-commerce and then engage also in our store. They spend a lot more with us, a lot more with us and the customer behavior or the – I mean that's about, that's the broad message I'd give you on behaviors. You had another question though; to give one other? Promotions. Yes. Promotions, yes. If you look around our markets, you'll notice a couple of things. One is that we have fewer promotions. Our flyers are smaller, so at least the physical side of what you see and you'll see that more of our promotions have gone digital. And when you go digital, you'll see that more of a promotions are personalized to the individual. And so that's from the broad reach perspective. And then underlying that we've talked about a promotion technology that we have, which is now implemented fully that makes sure that we don't waste promotions, and so this notion of being surgical and digital is only getting better. Krisztina Katai: Got it. That's helpful. And then I had a follow-up question on digital sales. So the two-year stack was still very strong, but it did decelerate versus the fourth quarter. So my question is around your expectations for the balance of the year. And if this kind of level on a two year stack basis is what you're expecting going forward now, as consumers are increasingly coming back to the store? Vivek Sankaran: I think, let's break down the two-year stack. I just want to be sure that you take away from – there are a couple of components that are still growing drive-up and go is growing grew 75%. Traffic in our e-commerce business is still up, even over 2020. So what you're seeing is relative to a very, very significant basket uptick in Q1 2020. You've seen that come down, which is why the numbers look that way, okay? I suspect what will happen is if you keep the same traffic, remember the baskets got smaller as you went through the year and people ended up not panic buying like they did. I think you'll see these numbers coming back up because the traffic is still staying positive. Krisztina Katai: Great. Thank you so much. Operator: The next question is from Robert Moskow with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Vivek Sankaran: Hi, Robert. Robert Moskow: Hi. Thanks for the question. I wanted to know, Vivek if you could share a little bit about what your learning’s' have been so far on MFCs. I, as an outsider, it looks like your approach to this is kind of cautious. You're kind of testing and learning. So what have you learned about the operational effectiveness it can give you? And what are the challenges they pose? Vivek Sankaran: Yes. So you're right. We are cautious in the sense that part of the trick on the MFC is first learning how to operate it and connect it to what's happening in the store, recognize that what you're trying to do in MFC or astray, you're trying to pick as much as you can from the MFC, and then pick the tail from the store so that you don't lose the specialness of what you can give the customer from a store, a bouquet of flowers, a special cut of meat and so on. But really you've got to pick all of your core, fast moving items in the middle of the store. So first, how do you integrate it? How do you integrate orders? Because one store is not covering six, seven stores. How do you think about the mix, especially if you're curating by store? So there's a lot of learning on that. There's a lot of learning also on just the algorithm that continues to learn to optimize the inventory in the MFC so you can increase the pick time there's learning in that. And it's a lot of software that has to connect with the rest of the system. The ordering system for the overall business and so on. So we're learning a lot of those things. The second learning we're going through is how to configure it. We've got two that are connected to a store. We're going to open another one that's not so connected to a store. We're exploring whether we should open a complete dark one, right? So there are different options and these different things fit in different markets. And so we're going to test that through the rest of this year. And then I think we have enough to have learned a few prototypes that we can start scaling quickly. So that's the journey we're going to, Robert, it's – and the nice thing about it is that I talked about the optionality. There's no need to punch out a hundred of these quickly because the business is still growing with the base of the store, and by the time it gets to sufficient scale, we'll have this figured out. Robert Moskow: Got it. And I'll exercise one more follow-up here. You said that you want to be very active in M&A, and that you're good at it. What are you seeing in terms of deal flow coming across your desk? These regional stores got a bit of a lifeline from COVID, I'm sure their sales are good. So does that mean that there's fewer opportunities to buy or is it different than that? Vivek Sankaran: Yes. The deal flow is – I think it was higher pre-COVID, let me put it that way. I think we’re going to have to be patient. And I think the opportunities will come. And actually, that’s good because it gives us a tremendous opportunity to modernize every aspect of our business, learn how to leverage our customer data, learn how to apply technology everywhere, learn how to become personalized and extremely surgical. And so that we can get even more synergies when we do it. So that’s how we’re being patient, and we’re going to continue to build our business. Robert Moskow: Okay, great. Thanks for that questions. Melissa Plaisance: Okay. We have time for two more questions. Operator: The next caller is Joe Feldman with Telsey Advisory Group. Please go ahead. Vivek Sankaran: Hi, Joe. Joe Feldman: Hey guys. Hi, how are you? Thanks for taking the question. A lot of mine have been answered. But I want to ask, can you talk a bit more about the prepared meals and remind us of the expansion and what you’re seeing. And I recall there were some changes that you did make to that – to the prepared meals programs and some of the things in the stores where you try to package things more. Are you going to go back to the kind of, I guess, the salad bar type of a prepared meal plan or not as you go forward? Vivek Sankaran: Yes, yes. Good, good question. So let me separate two things, okay, Joe. One is salad bars, wing bars and all of those things that we had pre-pandemic. And the amazing thing about when you have these disruptions, you still learn a lot. And so we’re bringing those back, but we’re bringing those back with kind of deliberately. So if you go to some markets, you’ll see that we brought back the wing bar because in that – in those markets, we sell more when you put it – when you leave it in bulk, and there’s that freshness component. There is the – people believe you cook it – actually they won’t believe that we cook it in the stores or they see all of that. In some markets, we’ve opened the salad bars, and we’re having good success with it. So we’re going to bring some of that. And some of those, we’re not bringing back at all, right, because customers have just switched habits to having it packaged – prepackaged for them. The meals program is different. The meals program, what we are trying to do is to give people the option of having meals that were – that products that were prepared in store, taking it home and having a great meal in 15 minutes in an oven, right? And that’s working really well for us. It’s – you can’t do that if you don’t have a tremendous presence in fresh. And if you don’t have a butcher in the store to cut your meat the way – so that it’s done that morning for you. And we’re rolling that out and are having great success with it. What I’m proud of the team is they also learned how to manage the shrink with it, which is the most difficult part of that whole process. Joe Feldman: Got it. That’s really helpful. Thanks and most of (1:08:04) were asked. I’ll pass it on. Thank you. Melissa Plaisance: Okay. Last question. Operator: Yes. So last question is from Kelly Bania with BMO Capital. Please go ahead. Vivek Sankaran: Hi, Kelly. Kelly Bania: Hi, good morning. Good morning. Thanks for fitting me in. Vivek Sankaran: Sure. Kelly Bania: Just one quick – thanks. One clarification question and then another one on wages. Just curious if you can – so much moving parts in the numbers right now. I was curious if you can help us kind of break down that two-year stack of 16.5% between volume, price and mix and trade up, if you can put any kind of numbers around that maybe on a two-year stack basis, just so we can kind of understand the underlying components there? And then also just on wages, curious, obviously, a lot of noise in the market and announcements and increases in both wages and maybe benefits. Just curious if you can help us understand what you’re thinking for this year and next year and if you’re making enough investment in that area for your employees? Thank you. Vivek Sankaran: Yes, Kelly, let me tackle the wages piece and then Bob can come back to what we can share on the two-year stack. On the wages piece, Kelly, we are not seeing the same challenges that you might hear from restaurant operators and others, okay? We’re seeing some pressure on labor in certain markets and in some of our distribution centers. It’s – and so – and the way we’re seeing the pressure there is more from turnover and the ability to fill jobs. But we are in a place where we can still quite comfortably cover with overtime and things like that. So we feel good about that and recognize that with union wages. We – our wages are typically higher than the market. We offer benefits. And the increase that we’ll see in wages as we go forward will be part of the negotiated contracts. And it typically ranges around 2%, as set of contracts come up and it ranges in that. So that’s how we think about the planning horizon on wages. Bob, could you share because the units are significant. Bob Dimond: Yes. You’re exactly right. I would say on the two-year stack, the most significant part of the increase there is certainly on units. Vivek Sankaran: Yes. Bob Dimond: Now if you try to look at things from a customer versus basket perspective, what we will say, and I think we said this a little bit earlier, we’re pleased to see that we’re favorable on customers versus a year ago. which was certainly down big time a year ago. But I don’t think we’re quite back to the levels that we were in 2019, but we see it trending that way. Vivek Sankaran: Right. Melissa Plaisance: Okay. Well, thanks, everyone, for participating. We ran a little bit over given some of the glitches in this call. We appreciate your interest in Albertsons Companies. And Cody Perdue and I will be available the balance of the day for the follow-up calls. Thank you. Vivek Sankaran: Thank you, all. Operator: This concludes today’s conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.
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Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE: ACI) Earnings Report Highlights

  • Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE:ACI) reported Q3 2024 earnings with revenue of approximately $18.77 billion, missing estimates.
  • The company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio stands at 11.07, indicating market valuation of its earnings.
  • ACI's debt-to-equity ratio is high at 4.22, pointing to a significant level of debt.

Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE:ACI) is a major player in the grocery industry, operating numerous supermarket chains across the United States. The company competes with other large retailers like Kroger and Walmart. On January 8, 2025, ACI reported its earnings for the third quarter of 2024, revealing a revenue of approximately $18.77 billion, which was slightly below the estimated $18.93 billion.

The earnings call, held on the same day, featured key figures such as CEO Vivek Sankaran and CFO Sharon McCollam. Analysts from major financial institutions like JPMorgan and Wells Fargo participated, highlighting the significance of ACI's financial performance. Despite the revenue shortfall, the company's earnings exceeded expectations, leading to a rise in ACI's stock price.

ACI's financial metrics provide further insight into its market position. The company has a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 11.07, indicating how the market values its earnings. Its price-to-sales ratio of 0.14 suggests a relatively low market valuation compared to its revenue, while the enterprise value to sales ratio of 0.32 reflects a modest enterprise value in relation to sales.

The company's financial health is also evident in its earnings yield of 9.03%, offering a glimpse into the return on investment for shareholders. However, ACI's debt-to-equity ratio is high at 4.22, indicating a significant level of debt compared to equity. The current ratio of 0.93 suggests that ACI has slightly less than enough current assets to cover its current liabilities, which could be a point of concern for investors.

Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE: ACI) Shows Promising Investment Potential

  • The consensus price target for NYSE:ACI has been on an upward trend, indicating growing confidence among analysts.
  • Strategic business decisions and improved financial performance are key drivers behind the positive shift in the consensus price target.
  • Albertsons is recognized as a potential value stock by Zacks, suggesting it could be a strong investment pick.

Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE:ACI) is a prominent entity in the U.S. food and drug retail sector. It operates over 2,276 stores and 1,722 pharmacies under various well-known banners. The company also manages numerous distribution centers and manufacturing sites, making it a significant player in the industry. Albertsons competes with other major retailers like Kroger and Walmart.

The consensus price target for ACI's stock has shown an upward trend over the past year. A year ago, the average price target was $22.13, which increased to $22.5 in the last quarter and further rose to $24 in the last month. This suggests growing confidence among analysts in the company's stock performance. UBS analyst Mark Carden has set an even higher price target of $33, indicating a positive outlook.

This positive shift in the consensus price target could be attributed to strategic business decisions and improved financial performance. Albertsons is set to release its earnings soon, as highlighted by CNBC's Jim Cramer. This event, along with new economic data releases, is expected to impact the market significantly, despite being described as a "light week."

Albertsons is also recognized as a potential value stock, according to an analysis by Zacks. The Zacks Rank system focuses on earnings estimates and revisions to identify promising stocks. This analysis, along with trends in value, growth, and momentum, suggests that ACI could be a strong investment pick. Investors might find this trend encouraging, indicating potential growth and value in Albertsons Companies, Inc.'s stock.

Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE: ACI) Quarterly Earnings Preview

  • Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE:ACI) is set to release its quarterly earnings with an anticipated EPS of $0.66 and revenue of $18.85 billion.
  • The company's financial metrics reveal a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 11.39 and a debt-to-equity ratio of 2.62, indicating a higher level of debt.
  • Albertsons' current ratio of 0.90 suggests potential challenges in meeting short-term obligations.

Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE:ACI) is a major player in the U.S. food and drug retail sector. The company operates a vast network of 2,267 retail stores, 1,726 pharmacies, and 405 fuel centers across 34 states and the District of Columbia. Albertsons also manages 22 distribution centers and 19 manufacturing facilities, making it a significant force in the industry.

On January 8, 2025, ACI will release its quarterly earnings, with Wall Street anticipating an earnings per share of $0.66 and revenue of approximately $18.85 billion. The earnings release will be followed by a conference call at 8:30 a.m. Eastern Time, accessible through the company's investor relations page. A replay will be available for two weeks.

Albertsons' financial metrics provide insight into its market valuation. The company has a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 11.39, reflecting how the market values its earnings. A price-to-sales ratio of 0.14 suggests a relatively low market valuation compared to its revenue, while the enterprise value to sales ratio of 0.32 indicates the company's total valuation in relation to its sales.

The enterprise value to operating cash flow ratio of 9.42 highlights Albertsons' cash flow generation relative to its valuation. An earnings yield of 8.78% offers a perspective on the return on investment for shareholders. However, a debt-to-equity ratio of 2.62 points to a higher level of debt compared to equity, which could be a concern for investors.

Albertsons' current ratio of 0.90 indicates its ability to cover short-term liabilities with short-term assets. This ratio suggests that the company may face challenges in meeting its short-term obligations, which is an important consideration for stakeholders.

Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE:ACI) Earnings Preview: Key Financial Ratios in Focus

  • Earnings per Share (EPS) is estimated at $0.48 for the upcoming quarterly report.
  • The Price-to-Earnings (P/E) ratio of 9.46 suggests a moderate market valuation of Albertsons' earnings.
  • Albertsons' debt-to-equity ratio of 2.93 raises concerns about its financial stability.

Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE:ACI) is a major player in the grocery industry, operating numerous supermarkets across the United States. As a competitor to other retail giants like Kroger and Walmart, Albertsons is a key player in the market. The company is set to release its quarterly earnings on October 15, 2024, with Wall Street estimating an earnings per share (EPS) of $0.48 and projected revenue of $18.49 billion.

Investors and analysts are eagerly awaiting the earnings report for the second quarter, which ended in August 2024. This report is crucial for understanding Albertsons' performance in the current market conditions. The company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 9.46 suggests that the market has a moderate valuation of its earnings, which could influence investor sentiment.

Albertsons' price-to-sales ratio of 0.13 indicates a relatively low market valuation compared to its revenue. This could be an attractive point for investors looking for value opportunities. Additionally, the enterprise value to sales ratio of 0.31 reflects the company's total valuation in relation to its sales, providing further insight into its market position.

The company's financial health is also under scrutiny, with an enterprise value to operating cash flow ratio of 8.79. This ratio helps investors understand how well Albertsons generates cash flow from its operations. However, the debt-to-equity ratio of 2.93 highlights a higher level of debt compared to equity, which may raise concerns about financial stability.

Albertsons' current ratio of 0.88 suggests potential liquidity challenges in meeting short-term obligations. This metric is important for assessing the company's ability to cover its short-term liabilities with its short-term assets. As the earnings report approaches, these financial metrics will be closely watched to gauge Albertsons' overall performance and future prospects.

Albertsons Companies’ Upcoming Q4 Earnings Preview

RBC Capital analysts provided a review of Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE:ACI) ahead of the upcoming Q4/23 earnings report on April 11.

According to the analysts, food channel dollar sales throughout the company’s regions grew approximately 6% in Q4 (vs. Street estimate of 4.6%) and are trending in the low 5's% in the first four weeks of Q1 (vs. Street’s estimate of 3.1%), both led by low-to-mid teens pricing.

On March 28, RBC Capital hosted an expert speaker call with Numerator's Chief Economist, Dr. Leo Feler, to provide perspective on the FTC’s process, next steps, and likely deal outcomes. The analysts’ perspective was mostly confirmed, which indicated that in order to obtain clearance, ACI/KR would need to sell off approximately 650 stores.

The analysts expect FTC to file a lawsuit in the coming months, recommending the merger be blocked.

Albertsons Companies’ Upcoming Q3 Results Preview

RBC Capital analysts provided their outlook on Albertsons Companies, Inc. (NYSE:ACI) ahead of the upcoming Q3 results announcement.

The analysts believe Q3 fundamentals will largely be glossed over by investors given the pending merger with KR. Inflation and merger commentary will likely be the primary focus.

The analysts remain of the view that the FTC will push for divestitures towards the upper end of the 650-store limit outlined in the merger agreement. They ultimately believe shares will trade sideways until there is more clarity on a potential outcome.

According to the analysts, food channel dollar sales throughout the company's regions grew approximately 7.4% in Q3 (vs. Street’s 4.5%) and are trending up 9.7% Q4 to date.

Albertsons Companies’ Management Meeting Review

RBC Capital analysts hosted Albertsons Companies, Inc.(NYSE:ACI) management, including the President and CFO Sharon McCollam for a series of virtual meetings.

The most-discussed topics were (1) the impact of reduced SNAP benefits, (2) inflation expectations/ability to take price, (3) the strategic review, and (4) the advertising business. The analysts believe the company is well positioned for the current environment.

According to the analysts, the management’s constructive tone paired with their proprietary IRI analysis prompts them to raise the Q1 ID sales growth estimate from 4.5% to 5.5% (vs, Street’s 5.3%). However, the analysts maintained their Q1 EPS estimate of $0.96. Their outperform rating and $37 price target were also maintained.